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02/26/2005 09:00:54 AM |
| I like this shot very much. I know a lot of people don't care for veiling water but I love it. I think it adds a whole new feel/emotion to the image. Nice job. |
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03/13/2004 11:18:07 AM |
| Hey, John, were you challenging on the last place on purpose? :-) Ha ha, GeneralE has beaten on you. :-) Anyway, I like this photo a much, this is a bit dark, but wonderful waterfall. :-) |
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03/10/2004 04:50:58 AM |
Originally posted by briphoto:
What WERE you thinking? Hey John, the plant life doesn't appear till day three, so it really dilutes the message to leave it. |
Ummm... this is they 'day three' photo in the series :) |
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03/09/2004 09:55:44 PM |
| What WERE you thinking? Hey John, the plant life doesn't appear till day three, so it really dilutes the message to leave it. |
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03/09/2004 01:47:38 PM |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by ScottK:
I suspect John is engaging in a bit of protest and/or rebellion. Time will tell... :) |
There is no protest or rebellion. I had decided to not post at all but I changed my mind and decided to post whatever I have been working on. I don't go out and shoot for challenges anymore, so I just submit something I have when challenge time comes around. I thought I might be able to get some amount of feedback that was useful, even though the photo doesn't meet the challenge. There are a handful of people that seem to be irritated because I have done this but there are only two or three so I may continue to do it.
There is nothing in it for me other than some possible feedback. The scores I get on these are definitely below my challenge average. Scores are just numbers though :)
Cheers :) |
That's cool. I stand corrected. :)
I just thought there might be some hidden "statement" about thinking outside the bonds of a challenge or something along those lines. Memories of some previous threads you've started to spur discussion...
I will say I don't really understand the point of purposefully entering the challenges with no intent to meet them. It seems a bit of an aggressive display (passively, at any rate) against the site, or maybe the community. I'm not saying your intent is or isn't, just an observation. On the other hand, I do understand moving beyond the "bondage" of challenges in choosing what to shoot week to week.
BTW, I do like this shot, and the concept you're going for with the series. I've been trying to come up with creative depictions of biblical and spiritual topics as well, but haven't gotten too far yet. If you're going for each shot representing a day, then I would suggest that the twig stay - in fact, a shaft of light on the twig would have been very cool, indicating a blessing on the creation - it was good. Just a thought. I hope to see the final series when you're done. |
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03/09/2004 05:56:48 AM |
Jessica,
Thanks for the wonderful insight into my existance here. I must say that this feedback from you is the best feedback I have ever received on this site. It's the first time I think I have ever really taken a deep look into what I'm doing here.
The truth of the matter is that I'm looking for something but I don't know exactly what it is yet. Feedback of sorts is always nice, whether it be good or bad.
Boredom is an interesting topic. As much as I hate to admit it, I think this could be true. I'm not bored with photography. Maybe there are just certain aspects of it that don't inspire me anymore.
DPChallenge is a wonderful site. The opportunities to learn something worthwhile here are incredible. I do enjoy playing the mentor role as much as I enjoy making my own photos. Teaching someone else the things that I know are my only means of longevity in the world of photography. I don't believe that my photographs are going to be eternal. I have shared a lot of myself with others via DPC and one on one.
Your perception of me is mostly true. I do want to continue growing as a photographer. I also want to continue contributing to the growth of others. I'm just in a bit of a rut at the moment. I see things that I don't know how to explain. I think I'm in a stage where my perception of what I see is changing. As I already stated, I'm looking for something. When I figure out what that is, I may be able to get myself back on track.
Cheers and thank you for your input :)
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03/09/2004 04:27:40 AM |
I always scroll down to see who was dead last in the challenge. I know, it's sad, but I do. Then I saw this lovely photograph and wondered if this was like the conflict challenge. It was too good to be some lamer's photo, but it was an average water shot that I think many could achieve with some time. Then I reminded myself how much I wondered about your words in the challenge "conflict" on how you were trying to fool the members into thinking there was some amount of conflict going on.
I thought about how much respect you get around here, how much people tend to look up to you. I thought about the first photo I saw of you and how I pulled an issue of pop photo scanned the flag/water drop photo and began to compare it for a rip. I didn't know you; you didn't and still may not know me. Then your last submission suggested to me that you were done with the people here. You got your press and now you're done. I tried to put myself in your shoes. Could you be pissed off these days because people are winning challenges the same way you did? I mean, you saw the photo in pop photo and you repeated it. People saw your photo here and they repeated it. All the while, your name tossed around the comments, but they also would surround a colored ribbon. Could you be upset that your ideas are being repeated? Hell, I've repeated your ideas and I've done it without qualm.
I don't know what you are trying to say other than what you've already said. In a literal form, you want to fool the members, get some feedback, and there is nothing here for you except some off the cuff feedback that does not come but once or twice in each photo. So then, I'd have to equate all of this to the fact that you just may very well be bored. Back to my original words, that you've got your press and now you'd like to move on. You'll come here for feedback because we all need a certain sort of validation and self-validation isn't always a possibility. Otherwise, you're just screwing around and your point is taken. 62 comments on a photo that doesn't meet the challenge. Not 100% unfounded, but still quite the turn out for someone who gives the impression to me that he's just f'ing with the very people who played a role in your advancement. And yes, you bought the camera, you bought the film (when and if you used it) you thought of some of the ideas, made other people's ideas better, and you did all of the footwork. We sat back and waited for John's next big thing and then provided you feedback and or praise. It was the validation of your peers here that allowed you to see that your work is accepted and appreciated. To some extent you've given back to the community and as someone who is looking for people like you, people willing to share their trade secrets for another project (at DA) I would have thought that you'd embrace it with open arms. However, if I misread then so be it. If I did not then all I have to say is "that's gratitude for you." The sad thing is I can still put myself in another set of shoes and think that the community may very well owe you a bit more than "dude you rock your photos are awesome" in the comments put forth to you. Perhaps you do feel and it is warranted when you think the community has given you empty feedback and you want more. There are so many ways to spin this really and I've pretty much only just begun. However, I digress and for that I will leave you be. I think all in all when you see an idol (an idol too many) start to fall, one attempts to make rhyme or reason out of it.
I hope you do not find this offensive, but I do hope you see it as rational.
Jessica
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03/08/2004 02:41:31 PM |
Originally posted by ScottK:
I suspect John is engaging in a bit of protest and/or rebellion. Time will tell... :) |
There is no protest or rebellion. I had decided to not post at all but I changed my mind and decided to post whatever I have been working on. I don't go out and shoot for challenges anymore, so I just submit something I have when challenge time comes around. I thought I might be able to get some amount of feedback that was useful, even though the photo doesn't meet the challenge. There are a handful of people that seem to be irritated because I have done this but there are only two or three so I may continue to do it.
There is nothing in it for me other than some possible feedback. The scores I get on these are definitely below my challenge average. Scores are just numbers though :)
Cheers :)
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03/08/2004 02:17:06 PM |
| I suspect John is engaging in a bit of protest and/or rebellion. Time will tell... :) |
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03/08/2004 02:10:39 PM |
Originally posted by Dim7:
I really like this John! Were you using a ND filter?Great shot either way. |
I was using a 3-stop ND filter and a polarizer on this photo. |
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03/08/2004 12:15:32 PM |
| I really like this John! Were you using a ND filter?Great shot either way. |
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03/08/2004 05:54:19 AM |
I wish I got this many comments on my photographs! I didn't vote on this picture because I didn't understand what you were saying about fire. It's beautiful but lIke many others I'm suprised you submitted it. I'll be watching for your entry in the next challenge.
Message edited by author 2004-03-08 10:56:31. |
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03/08/2004 04:53:50 AM |
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03/08/2004 04:32:18 AM |
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03/08/2004 02:45:42 AM |
| John, keep the twig in, it adds some natural character to the shot. I like the shot, but as I said and you too it didn't mee the challenge. Van |
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03/08/2004 01:11:21 AM |
| This is your second challenge entry recently that has been deliberately way off the theme....Is there some kind of voter pattern test going on ?When are you letting us into the plot John ? |
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03/07/2004 07:51:42 PM |
| Incredible shot. The only way that I could imagine it being related to fire was the way the water was frozen in time, it kind of looks like the gaseous state of smoke. Gave you a "7" simply because its a very good shot. |
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03/07/2004 07:39:16 PM |
ditto as the other post challenge comments.
This is obviously a great shot, no doubt about that. No doubt also, by your admission, that it does not meet the challenge. I have to admit I was astounded to see it was yours. Never thought I'd see a shot by you anywhere other than the top.
I like your explanation of the shot. Very methodical & intentional which I think speaks volumes to your fotographic talent & ablities.
Will you hit us back as to why you chose to enter in a challenge that it didnt fit in or are we being a tad nosey? |
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03/07/2004 07:29:04 PM |
If you're trying to get a Brown Ribbon, as Jacko did... It'll be very difficult. Your photographs are too good despite the obvious not meeting the challenge.
However, if you're trying to make a statement.... I'd love to hear it. |
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03/07/2004 07:28:49 PM |
I too am curious as to why you would enter this into a challenge that you yourself says it doesn't fit.
As to your own criticisms of your shot. I love the lighting here and the way it draws your eye into the shot! And as for the twig... My vote is 'Leave it', if my vote counts that is...
TC
Edited: I read your description again and realized that the lighting was not a criticism, but a comment on what the voters would accept. Once again though I must say I love the lighting in this one...
Message edited by author 2004-03-08 00:32:49. |
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03/07/2004 07:14:11 PM |
John, why did you enter this pic in Fire if in your own words you say "I can't imagine being able to tie this image to the theme of 'fire' in any way." ???
Nice pic but why for this challenge?
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03/07/2004 06:09:30 PM |
| I think this is a very beautiful image, nicely composed and tack sharp where it neads to be. Unfortunatly it dosent bring to mind fire. I realize it can be used to put out fire but I still dont see this photo showing or bringing to mind fire. Still very nice shot. |
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03/07/2004 02:22:34 PM |
| Well...I anxiously wait for the explanation...but nice scene. |
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03/07/2004 07:47:01 AM |
| Is this runoff from a fire hose? Now if the water had been on fire... |
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03/07/2004 05:34:42 AM |
| Nice photo but the lack of a fire makes it imperative I take off a few points. |
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03/06/2004 06:43:33 PM |
| Did you enter this in to the wrong challenge? |
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03/06/2004 04:32:14 PM |
Fire?
Nice pic but what has it got to do with fire? |
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03/06/2004 03:12:50 PM |
| Good shot but what does it have to do with fire? I am sure you have been asked this about 100 times by now. |
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03/06/2004 04:40:47 AM |
| I don't see the fire here. |
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03/06/2004 03:14:40 AM |
| Very nice picture... Where is the fire? If it's there then get back to me and point it out. Your vote from me can only go up from here. This looks as if it may be similar to the work that Andy Wightman did in The 4 Elements challenge recently, yet the flame there was much more visible. |
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03/05/2004 12:44:00 AM |
| Did you put this picture in the right challenge??? Where's the fire? You get an "F" as far as I'm concerned. |
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03/04/2004 08:15:44 PM |
| A very nice image but I dont see fire I do like this though |
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03/04/2004 07:26:37 PM |
This is a very cool shot. However, I do not see any fire or anything that I would take to represent fire here. Therefore, under the guidelines of the rules I can not give you a very high score!
TC |
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03/04/2004 06:48:42 PM |
| Beautiful shot, nice composition and incredible motion. I'm sure this one could win a ribbon in another challenge. |
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03/04/2004 03:05:25 PM |
edit comment removed per your wishes
Message edited by author 2005-10-05 12:54:44. |
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03/04/2004 12:04:07 PM |
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03/04/2004 11:50:35 AM |
| Ok, I'm a sucker for this kind of shot, its going in my favourites but I just don't see the fire element. |
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03/04/2004 12:50:44 AM |
| Wonderful photo, but no fire? |
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03/03/2004 02:55:45 PM |
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03/03/2004 02:19:06 PM |
| This is a decent water flow image and I gave it a good score but I'm sure you already know that it will get trashed for "failure to meet the challenge". Probably most folks, including me, will not see how this connects to the topic but that presupposes we know what was in your mind at the time. I assume you have a connection but it is not one most of us would recognize. I feel the quality of the picture takes precedence and that the challenge topic is only a guidline of lesser importance. |
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03/03/2004 10:07:39 AM |
Lovely mikly effect to the water but sadly for me this does not say "Fire".
So greta photo but poor on theme 4 |
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03/02/2004 05:27:42 PM |
| Did the water put out the fire?? Beautiful shot but just doesn't meet the chalenge |
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03/02/2004 12:42:10 PM |
| nice picture....like what I call Sobrito water, that digital velvia effect you produce with the closed shutter and long exposure, I think. Well now what challenge is this....mundane, Open, design....Oh yes FIRE.....sorry like to see the inference cause it is a fine image but I am totally missing it. |
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03/02/2004 09:33:32 AM |
| Great image, but how does it fit the challenge. |
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03/02/2004 08:42:55 AM |
| I've honestly tried, but I can't seem to figure out the relevance to the challenge. |
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03/02/2004 03:04:27 AM |
| interesting but wheres the fire. |
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03/02/2004 02:50:04 AM |
| I don't get it. I'm sure I've seen this photo in Elements and Textures already... |
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03/01/2004 11:31:10 PM |
| It´s a fantastic picture, but it doesn´t meet the challenge... I´m sorry. |
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03/01/2004 09:50:52 PM |
Absolutely amazing picture, bugger all to do with the challenge though! :-)
I really like this, good long exposure, nicely timed to get the lines perfect. Have to mark it right down though because it's got nothing to do with the challenge! |
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03/01/2004 03:39:48 PM |
| I must be dumb on this one, i don't get the title, neither how it meets the challenge, but i know i like this shot a lot. So, i´m gonna forget the topic and give you a high score. But please, can you explain this shot for me? |
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03/01/2004 02:59:32 PM |
| Nice image, but I don't see the relation to the challenge. |
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03/01/2004 02:29:31 PM |
| Beautiful Shot but I do not see where it meets the challange |
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03/01/2004 02:13:52 PM |
| Beautiful shot but the same question as everyone else I've no doubt - where's the fire? |
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03/01/2004 02:10:15 PM |
| Very nice water shot, can't see the fire though. You will probably get a low average on this great shot, and that's a shame. Like the lighting. |
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03/01/2004 01:48:23 PM |
| This is a great picture, but, I somply can't find the fire. If I am wrong, please let me know. |
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03/01/2004 01:39:23 PM |
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03/01/2004 12:55:37 PM |
| This is a wonderful photograph, but I think you submitted it to the wrong challenge.. |
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03/01/2004 12:51:58 PM |
| I think this is an incredible job, but am missing the fire relationship. |
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03/01/2004 09:25:11 AM |
| i'm confused nice picture though just not sure of how it meets the brief |
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03/01/2004 07:53:21 AM |
| I'm sorry but I just don't see any fire. Good phot for a water challenge. |
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03/01/2004 05:43:09 AM |
| Sorry. I am relly missing the connection to the theme. Or wrong challenge? Nice sgot though. gave some points for the shot but not high. |
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03/01/2004 05:30:37 AM |
| I'm wondering what your thinking was when you submitted this shot? |
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03/01/2004 02:51:35 AM |
| Nice photo. Way, way, way off challenge. You'll get slaughtered for this. |
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02/29/2004 09:47:56 PM |
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02/29/2004 09:41:13 PM |
| Wrong challenge? I see water, not fire, and the title doesn't make a link for me between the two, sorry. |
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02/29/2004 09:34:00 PM |
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02/29/2004 09:03:41 PM |
| Nice shot of a river, but where is the fire? I would give you a 9 for a nature shot, but that's an another challenge. |
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02/29/2004 08:27:49 PM |
| Nice picture but what about the fire? |
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02/29/2004 07:23:55 PM |
| Although I really like this, I don't see the fire? |
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