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Odd Angle
Odd Angle
Moose408


Photograph Information Photographer's Comments
Challenge: Odd II (Basic Editing)
Camera: Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT
Lens: Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 LD Aspherical AF for Canon
Location: Home
Date: Apr 18, 2008
Aperture: f/7.1
ISO: 200
Shutter: 250
Galleries: Abstract
Date Uploaded: Apr 20, 2008

Inspired by this photo on Flickr.

I ended up reshooting this twice to get it the way I wanted. The first time the camera was a little too high so there wasn't a clean line at the top of the liquid (i.e. the camera was looking slightly down on the tops of the glasses). I also spent a few hours trying to get rid of the dark area in the blue liquid. I finally determined that it is being caused by the shape of the wine glass, because the sides flair back in they are reflecting in back. Since I didn't have any other wine glasses available I just went with this.


I'm expecting this photo to do quite well and to be in my top 5.

Disqualification:
I screwed up and when importing my RAW files from the camera told Lightroom to convert them to DNG. Even though DNG contains all of the original image just as RAW does the rules don't allow it. Oh well. It was a nice blue ribbon for a week.
Disqualification Details
You must retain your original, unedited file (exactly as recorded by your camera), and provide it to the Site Council along with a list of your editing steps within 48 hours of any validation request. Files that have been saved or altered with any editing or transfer software are NOT originals.

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Views during voting: 337
Comments: 34
Favorites: 11 (view)


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05/05/2008 05:39:40 PM
just passing by to say: Congrats!!..well done!
05/02/2008 11:17:00 PM
Great angle! congrats on the ribbon! tnx.
05/02/2008 09:20:17 PM
GREAT JOB!!!!!!! A+++++
05/02/2008 05:39:14 PM
I always like Jeff's image and this one is great too!
Debbi
05/01/2008 10:34:57 PM
I'd say it did pretty well. :-) Congrats! And imitation is a very good way to learn - now you can apply what you've learned to shots you take in the future. Very nice work!
04/30/2008 08:02:16 PM
Originally posted by Moose408:

Originally posted by yanko:

I understand trying to recreate a shot can be educational but why not at least put your own spin on it instead of trying to copy every last detail?


That's a fair comment and I agree.

Here's how this came about. I feel like I've been doing well on DPC from a creative stand point but was not doing so well with the technical. So I've been working on lighting and post-processing and really applying myself to learn to improve in these areas. As part of that exercise I happened to be trying to recreate this photo when the Odd/Even challenge was announced. My initial thought was a few ideas for the Even challenge and then it occurred to me that what I was shooting would fit the Odd. I was already setup to take the photo and liked the results. I did feel a little bad about making an exact copy and thought about not even including the link to the original but felt that was even worse. I've seen a lot of photos here where people copy others work so I decided it was OK.

So I guess it's a hollow victory. I will be more original in the future.


Thank you for not taking offense to my comment. It's not a hollow victory by any means. There are many who have tried shots like this and failed so it is an accomplishment you should be proud of.
04/30/2008 06:36:40 AM
Congratulations on your Blue ribbon. Great shot. :)
04/30/2008 06:17:43 AM
Congrats on your first Blue and PB!
04/30/2008 04:39:04 AM
Congrats on your first ribbon. Well done.

PS: I like your composition (and wine glases) better than those in the photo on Flickr, but there's a wrinkle in the upper right of your backdrop that mars the shot.

Message edited by author 2008-04-30 08:44:10.
04/29/2008 10:08:00 PM
Originally posted by yanko:

I understand trying to recreate a shot can be educational but why not at least put your own spin on it instead of trying to copy every last detail?


That's a fair comment and I agree.

Here's how this came about. I feel like I've been doing well on DPC from a creative stand point but was not doing so well with the technical. So I've been working on lighting and post-processing and really applying myself to learn to improve in these areas. As part of that exercise I happened to be trying to recreate this photo when the Odd/Even challenge was announced. My initial thought was a few ideas for the Even challenge and then it occurred to me that what I was shooting would fit the Odd. I was already setup to take the photo and liked the results. I did feel a little bad about making an exact copy and thought about not even including the link to the original but felt that was even worse. I've seen a lot of photos here where people copy others work so I decided it was OK.

So I guess it's a hollow victory. I will be more original in the future.
04/29/2008 09:53:15 PM
I agree with yanko here.... even the colours are the same. My photo wasn't very good and had very little thought put into it. I can see you obviously put effort into trying to perfect and learn a new technique to you and your result is very good, but try at least be a little more original.
04/29/2008 08:40:59 PM
Cool new idea for slanted liquids (I have a little experience with that myself)! Congrats on your first ribbon and new personal best! :)
04/29/2008 08:34:44 PM
I loved this when I saw it during voting. You did a great job here. Big congrats on the blue, Craig.
04/29/2008 08:26:00 PM
Way to go Craig!! Congratulations on the blue.
04/29/2008 08:25:51 PM
I understand trying to recreate a shot can be educational but why not at least put your own spin on it instead of trying to copy every last detail?
04/29/2008 08:25:33 PM
Originally posted by yospiff:

Man you have gotten good in a hurry! Congrats! I knew I would be one of the few to critique this.


Thanks. You're right about the stair stepping but I don't think it's from the JPEG compression as I compressed at 100% quality trying to get the filesize up and this was as high as it would go. I'm thinking I oversharpened it and that caused the stair-step effect.
04/29/2008 08:16:16 PM
Man you have gotten good in a hurry! Congrats! I knew I would be one of the few to critique this.
04/29/2008 08:03:25 PM
coooooool
congrats on the blue!
04/29/2008 08:02:58 PM
Grats on first place
 Comments Made During the Challenge
04/29/2008 06:10:00 PM
A great shot, but you hurt it with some excessive JPEG compression. Your file is about 2/3 the size it could have been and it shows. Quite a bit of stair stepping is visible on the glasses as well. Try a different resizing algorithm to possibly smooth that out a bit. The shot is really good, and I'll probably be the only one to leave such criticisms on an otherwise outstanding entry.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/29/2008 12:48:26 PM
Very Clever; I love it! Must've taken quite a while to get this one perfect
04/28/2008 01:19:04 PM
A nice idea shot nicely. I wish the middle was green.
04/25/2008 09:37:30 AM
simple and nicely executed. congrats.
04/25/2008 04:37:36 AM
Interesting picture. Very artistic way to illistrat odd but simple. 9
04/25/2008 12:52:33 AM
great conception of odd, i like the simplicity of it
04/24/2008 04:50:12 PM
good continuation of a line through the three glasses - there are some oversharpening artifacts and the contents in blue seems a bit blurry
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/24/2008 09:27:18 AM
Great idea! You'll do well I think. This must have taken quite a bit of setup time to get right :).
04/24/2008 03:55:10 AM
beautiful...nice colors and light is great
04/23/2008 11:32:19 AM
excellent, love how you made sure the levels were varied to form the line.
04/23/2008 08:42:05 AM
I love how you lined up the levels. Color and lighting are great too. Well done!
04/23/2008 08:33:38 AM
I like it... might have thought about cropping off a bit at the top though...
04/23/2008 06:15:31 AM
Love the concept, though the blue glass needs to be a tad emptier!
  Photographer found comment helpful.
04/23/2008 04:53:56 AM
Would like to see the setting! Really good compo and the colors are awesome!
04/22/2008 08:12:14 PM
Nice lines. Maybe a bit much negative space.


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