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Challenge: The Four Elements II (Advanced Editing V)
Camera: Canon EOS-5D
Lens: Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro
Location: driveway
Date: May 27, 2007
Aperture: f2.8
ISO: 200
Shutter: 13 sec.
Galleries: Nature
Date Uploaded: May 27, 2007

Shot with the 100mm macro, at night, with a flashlight.

I know, I know, it looks artsy.

After challenge:
Ok, these guys are all of 1/4 inch tall. Weird color soil? That's fertile Georgia clay.

Statistics
Place: 273 out of 394
Avg (all users): 5.2654
Avg (commenters): 3.3333
Avg (participants): 5.1509
Avg (non-participants): 5.4821
Views since voting: 673
Views during voting: 229
Votes: 162
Comments: 10
Favorites: 1 (view)


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06/09/2007 06:36:17 PM
Positives:
Greens contrasted against full earth tones with good background bokeh to emphasize the challenge topic.

Technicals:
Overall a decent quality macro capture. Brown tones across the whole image well emphasizes your intended purpose.

The general composition lacks a directing purpose and a true central interest point for viewers to latch onto and has a very shallow depth of field at f/2.8. It needs something more added to the composition.

Contrast looks weak but overall technical quality is acceptible except for the blurring of some of the plant leaves is not very smooth and act as viewer distractions because they are so close to the sharpest areas of the image. Their edges just don't look right.

The Challenge:
Obviously, you met the challenge. Despite all the discussion about such things virtually every photographer intends to and does meet the challenge. That is not a big issue here.

Though yours is a little more pronounced than most, you will notice that 85% of voters scored your image 4, 5, or 6... only 15% outside that range. It is fairly typical for an image be scored in a narrow range and therefore hard to know exactly what it means. There are HUGE quality differences between images scored 4.0 from ones scored 6.0 yet that is the mixed message sent to you with your vote distribution curve.

The fact there are only 15% of the votes above or below this range probably means there was little in the composition to provoke a user reaction. You were scored below average in a high quality challenge, but with added value this image would have finished much higher.

Suggestions:
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Probably the most important thing to do to "improve" your image is to add something more to the composition.

Your image reminds me of a story DrAchoo told about this sorta similar red ribbon winner he took for the Shapes challenge:


He explained that he picked a pea sprout with an interesting swirl from his garden and taped it to the kid's swing set to photograph. But he felt it was missing something so vainly went in search of his tradmark ladybug to include in the composition. He couldn't find one. Then he remembered where there were some big ants so went and got one, put it on the sprout and quickly photographed it for about 30 seconds while the ant struggled to escape.

Your image needs it's ant or equivalent. The sprouts are not enough. Its a great setting waiting for a main subject. The highest scoring images not only meet the challenge but always have added value to make the composition unique and more interesting.
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Even with your lens wide open you still had to have a 13 second exposure to get the picture. It would be very difficult include any animate object at that shutter speed. Additionally, shallow depth of field(DOF) hurt this image in voting somewhat. You need to shoot at a higher f/number for greater DOF. You could either lengthen the exposure time or get more lighting to make that possible. Of course, shooting at a higher f/number would screw up your great circular background bokeh. Ya just can't win sometimes and have to make compromises.

To see if the contrast is 'really' weak just do a quick "autolevels" adjustment. If it looks better to you after "autolevels" then it is weak and should be adjusted. :)
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06/08/2007 07:27:50 AM
curious as to why this scored where it did?

for starters, because a large majority of people disagree with daboardergirl's assessment ;-)

just trying to keep this simple:

technically, the focus is weird. the dof is so shallow that you can't get a real sense of the subject, mainly because you can't tell what's in front and what's in back. if all the sprouts had been in focus, the image would have registered with most viewers a little easier.

as for meeting the challenge, it's a bit of a stretch to call this 'earth' when the earth is not the subject or the focus. the earth is just there, and it's not really fair to ask the voters to make the leap that having something in the image is the same thing as making that something the image. maybe if you has drenched the sprouts and made the water drops extremely visible.

wow factor? nada. the colors are nice, but this isn't an image that is going to arrest the viewer, let alone the voter.

in the end, this image scored about where it should have. obviously not one of your better outings, but definitely nothing to question yourself over.
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06/07/2007 02:19:15 PM
I CANNOT believe this scored so low. I thought it would make top 10. I gave it an 8, but now I wish I gave a 10. This is just a beautiful picture. :) The DOF is perfect, the soil color is magical, and the angle is inspired. Haha! Anyways... great job!

Message edited by author 2007-06-07 18:19:29.
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
06/01/2007 09:13:37 AM
Needs more DOF
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/30/2007 06:14:09 PM
Very cool shot. I love the DOF, and crop
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/30/2007 10:27:59 AM
This is close. I like.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/29/2007 06:56:32 AM
Nice
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/29/2007 06:08:29 AM
Feels cozy in that soft and special light. :)
  Photographer found comment helpful.
05/29/2007 01:16:15 AM
DOF is way too shallow, the huge brown area in the foreground distracts
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05/28/2007 12:55:35 PM
Nice but feel the odd colour soil a bit distracting.
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