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The Young Musician
The Young Musician
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Challenge: School Days: Music (Basic Editing)
Camera: Nikon D80
Lens: Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5- 5.6G ED DX
Date: Feb 11, 2007
Aperture: 5
ISO: 100
Shutter: 1/400
Galleries: Portraiture, Rural
Date Uploaded: Feb 11, 2007

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Disqualification Details
You may use a cloning tool or small healing brush for the sole purpose of removing sensor dust or hot pixels. No other spot-editing is allowed.

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12/20/2008 05:46:44 AM
FYI for anyone looking at this shot in the future:
I am a professional violinist and an orchestra teacher and I assure you that no responsible teacher ever sets kids up with "left handed" violins unless there is a physical deformity (like a disfigured hand) that makes putting the instrument on the left shoulder impossible. The excuse below (she is just left handed) is also wrong because even the very rare person who plays this way has the hand turned around so the thumb is on the other side of the instrument. This is just a model/photographer that has no clue how to hold the instrument (not to mention the strange bow hold that would be a disaster if she actually played).

As for why virtually all string players are set up exactly the same (instrument on left shoulder). Part of it is pragmatic. Since most string players play in orchestras (where people are packed closely together to play) it is extremely problematic to have someone bowing in an opposite direction with their instrument close to their neighbors (which is also bad for aesthetics). More importantly, left handed players have no disadvantage to right handed players because string playing requires the development of your weak hand in either case. Left handed people need to work harder at properly using their bow hand, but they usually have a big advantage when it comes to the dexterity and fine muscle motion of the left hand putting the fingers down in the right place, shifting, vibrating. Learning a certain ambidexterity is required of both left and right handed string players.

Here's a young girl demonstrating good violin position. And Here's a SP I took (but my bow is blurred).

Originally posted by fotodude:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Really nice shot, but what's with the way she's holding the neck of the violin? It looks all weird over there.


It is odd because its a right hander's violin, and she is holding it to the left hand side. (the sides go by the bow hand which is most natural in its motion if it is you dominant hand.)

so thats a small woops....

there arn't many lefty (south paw) violins out there but in all my time playing i've only ever none one lefty who played his violin backward instead of getting a custom or learning the right hand side. But still he had the chin rest moved to the propper side.

anyhow its a nice image.
that is obviously the most distracting part to me since i know alittle more (maybe) than you none violin playing viewer. (her right arm also looks slightly burnt to black in spots)

great sky to bad about the DQ it alwasy sucks.

_brando_
03/01/2007 04:03:10 PM
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Really nice shot, but what's with the way she's holding the neck of the violin? It looks all weird over there.


It is odd because its a right hander's violin, and she is holding it to the left hand side. (the sides go by the bow hand which is most natural in its motion if it is you dominant hand.)

so thats a small woops....

there arn't many lefty (south paw) violins out there but in all my time playing i've only ever none one lefty who played his violin backward instead of getting a custom or learning the right hand side. But still he had the chin rest moved to the propper side.

anyhow its a nice image.
that is obviously the most distracting part to me since i know alittle more (maybe) than you none violin playing viewer. (her right arm also looks slightly burnt to black in spots)

great sky to bad about the DQ it alwasy sucks.

_brando_
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02/23/2007 06:05:06 AM
It's too bad about your DQ because this really is one of your better photos. It's very pretty and natural (well other than the weird hand positioning and the dark spot at the bottom of her elbow). I'd be curious to see what spot editing was done that caused you to jeopardize a possible ribbon.
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02/22/2007 01:00:47 PM
Really nice shot, but what's with the way she's holding the neck of the violin? It looks all weird over there.
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02/21/2007 07:04:15 AM
Too bad for the DQ. I gave this one a high rating!
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02/21/2007 04:08:28 AM
awww. Saddened this shot didn't make it in. I was hoping this would do well. I agree with Tim, this is one of your best shots. So if you tried to shoot it specifically for this challenge, which you mostly likely did. It's still a great outcome. You got a great keeper! :D
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02/20/2007 10:12:42 PM
How disappointing, I thought this was a great shot.
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02/20/2007 07:50:33 PM
what a shame - this is one of your best Amy.
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
02/17/2007 01:38:28 AM
What I am to vote: the landscape, the pose, the rays?
02/16/2007 11:23:36 AM
gorgeous.....both the setting and the musician!!
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02/16/2007 10:58:07 AM
Evocative. Lovely background. Great capture on the rays!
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02/15/2007 03:16:47 PM
Ohhhh wow.
Other than the JPG and overshapening (look near her hair)
9

Good work
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02/15/2007 11:10:42 AM
This looks like Amy's sister, am I right? :)

Stunning image, the sunrays are just one of the beautiful features of this photo. Her pose, the wind blowing her hair, the gorgeous scenery, all combine to make an amazing photo.

I can see a few compression artifacts around her head and the bow but not enough to ruin the photo. Good luck!
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02/15/2007 10:53:11 AM
To bad this isn't advanced, lightening and bringing some color into the girl would really make this photo. Great shot though.
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02/15/2007 09:10:21 AM
Nice. I like the colors and sky.
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02/15/2007 08:29:05 AM
I would have liked this shot a lot more with a serious rather than humorous approach (i.e. the model holding the violin properly, and with shirt that doesn't have words on it). With a background as beautiful as this, I thought the humor (I assume you indended to have her holding it wrong)seems un-needed. would have had a 9 or 10 from me with a more serious approach. Still a very nice shot, though.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
02/15/2007 05:25:47 AM
The 'redness'under her right arm/elbow kept me from rating this higher.
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02/15/2007 04:10:57 AM
I bet she sounds great as well, backed by the sounds of the wild life, and the rusteling grass in the breeze, excelent shot, love the comp, 10
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02/14/2007 06:03:32 PM
love the lighting and colors but strange hand position
  Photographer found comment helpful.
02/14/2007 10:27:45 AM
Gosh...this is such a great capture! I think the only thing that bothers me is the way she is dressed. It takes the interest away from the image. I'm sorry...it's just my opinion. but it really is an awesome capture!
  Photographer found comment helpful.
02/14/2007 08:59:47 AM
I like the background and use of natural light to bring out highlights in her hair in this image. One thing seems strange to me however - it seems odd about the way she is holding the violin - it may be just the positioning in the photo...
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02/14/2007 12:57:51 AM
Awesome!
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