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09/22/2005 12:09:20 PM |
Hi Marty!
Welcome to DPC!
Critique Club
Initial thoughts
Small, lighting producing shiny skin effect, petal tips look brown, shallow DOF not effective here.
Image Size
As most commenters have mentioned, the Image size is unneccessarily small and especially now I see that you're using a 300D, I can't see any reason for it. A smaller image makes it much harder to really judge the contents – harder to see whether smaller details are sharp and even what the details and textures are.
Composition/ Content
The diagonal of the flower across the frame works reasonably well, as does the framing it provides to the lips/ face. However, it feels a touch too closely cropped to really be a portrait (rather than just a macro of lips).
The harsh light has highlighted the shininess on her skin – not flattering in a portrait image.
In such a close study of the lips the make-up would benefit from being much more accurately and neatly applied – perhaps using a lipliner to create a neater and slightly darker edge and then applying the main colour being within. Instead it looks as though your model has applied lipstick outside the edge of her lips (commonly done to make them look larger).
The dark brown edge on the flower petals is not attractive. Again, when presenting a close-up such as this, this kind of detail is much more important than in a wider angle portrait.
Camera Work - Technical
I don't think that shallow DOF works here – the out of focus cheek area on the left just seems very odd. Given that we're seeing such a small area of the scene, and given that there's not really much variation of depth within that bit of the scene, I think sharpness throughout would be better.
Digital Processing - Technical
The skin seems overly red to me, though I'm unsure whether this is down to post-processing or the model's natural skintone.
Fits The Challenge
I'm fairly open in terms of the definition of portrait – I don't think it has to be a full face or include neck and shoulders to be considered a portrait – and this does share something about how the model views herself. However, the majority would not consider this a real portrait and that has clearly harmed your score.
My Opinion On The Photo
An interesting idea but, with more care taken over props, lighting and make-up, as well as consideration of exact cropping, could be stronger.
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09/20/2005 05:25:03 AM |
i was going through the colour portrait score pages and thought i was having a spell of deja vu
(my entry for last weeks members challenge).
Our PP almosts matches too haha.
Uncanny ;) |
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09/19/2005 04:33:24 PM |
I got third to the bottom my first challenge. Welcome to DPC! Keep it coming. Up to 5.7 for perspectives and I have greatly appreciated the comments on my previous shots as it has helped me to not stop at 'hey that's cool' with my pictures and to shoot for WOW. Good luck.
Message edited by author 2005-09-19 20:34:51. |
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09/18/2005 07:39:34 PM |
| Distracting DOF and lighting |
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09/18/2005 07:20:36 PM |
| sorry but this image is way too small, also there is a strange blur on the side where you can see her face, I like that it's diffrent but doesn't really meet what I call portrait. |
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09/18/2005 07:14:21 PM |
| it's important that any oil on the face be wiped clean because it is highly reflective in direct light. it doesn't look like you used the camera flash becaus of the way the shadows fall across the petals, but it is important that you also diffuse the light in some way |
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09/18/2005 03:38:26 PM |
| You may disagree with me, and that's okay, but this doesn't meet the spirit of the challenge in my opinion. |
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09/18/2005 06:57:58 AM |
| the head on flash is almost never a good choice..trade it in for a longer exposure and perhaps close down your iris (for dof). the size on the picture doesnt help it either.. also remember to keep an eye on your models look..dab the sweat ect.. sorry for the bluntness but i hope these comment help you in later challenges. |
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09/17/2005 05:56:13 PM |
| You're main problem here, honestly, is that you saved it too small. The idea is good for an out-of-the-box image, but I'd like to see it larger. |
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09/17/2005 08:03:48 AM |
| This is different and well done I think. Good job. |
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09/17/2005 06:24:37 AM |
| This has no sense of portraiture. You need the full face, or profile. Also, the shot is way too small. It needs to have 150k and your larger dimension be 640 pixels, so that it is large enough to critique properly. |
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09/17/2005 01:26:44 AM |
| This is very small, which, for me, makes it more difficult to formulate a comment on. The colors seem very saturated, and the lighting, at least from what I can tell, feels harsh. A tighter crop on the lips and flower might help the composition by cropping out the unflattering shadow on the left side. |
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09/16/2005 11:35:53 AM |
| need to increase the size of your submission. |
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09/14/2005 05:35:37 AM |
| Good idea. Needs some work, just cleaned up in photoshop. Immage is very small. I had this problem too when I started someone sugested the tutorials on getting your immage ready for DPI. That comment helped me the most. Good Luck |
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09/13/2005 10:57:28 PM |
| The light is hitting the upper lip and I feel it is claiming the attention instead of the lips and the flower. Nice concept though. |
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09/13/2005 07:35:40 PM |
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09/13/2005 07:03:06 PM |
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09/13/2005 05:12:00 PM |
| An interesting shot to be sure. I sort of view this as a macro shot rather than a portrait. Also, would like to see a larger image so that it can be properly rated for quality. |
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09/13/2005 11:53:27 AM |
| I do not think this is a portrait. |
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09/13/2005 07:43:03 AM |
| A little on the small size. |
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09/13/2005 07:01:15 AM |
| Interesting. Nice juxtaposition of elements, but I think a portrait should be of the whole face. I want to say the picture should be larger, but I'm not sure I want to look at a huge set of lips. |
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09/13/2005 04:43:34 AM |
| Good Picture. The textures are great. |
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09/12/2005 11:15:52 PM |
| Very small image. Could have been interesting. But is it really a portrait? 3 |
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09/12/2005 09:02:42 PM |
| this image just didn't fit the definition of a portrait for me. if it was just the lips or just the flower - but thats just my op nice concept tho |
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09/12/2005 08:35:03 PM |
| Picture is just a little too small |
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09/12/2005 07:52:19 PM |
| Nice when its small, but se it in a larger form is bad? y |
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09/12/2005 07:34:14 PM |
| I'm sure everyone has already commented on how small this shot is.. to learn how to make the picture larger.. go to the tutorials.. in Learn |
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09/12/2005 05:53:20 PM |
| This is a little small in size and not really enough of a face to be considered a portrait, I don't think. I like the idea of the flower. Would just like to see a little more face to go along with it. You should definitely use the full 640 size when submitting. It will help us to see more of the details of your photo. :-) |
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09/12/2005 04:33:21 PM |
| I wish there was more of the face...makes me think of a lipstick ad. |
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09/12/2005 03:54:26 PM |
| like it..wouldd be better if bigger |
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09/12/2005 12:49:18 AM |
| I think this shows potential. Could use some better lighting and colors. I think the flower needs to show more. A brighter yellow would help. Sharper focus would also be good. Larger picture would help. |
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09/11/2005 08:57:00 PM |
| This will probally hear a lot about it being too small. I think it is a good photo, but I don't really get a Portrait out of it. Good luck~Roni |
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