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Samantha_T


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Challenge: Before And After Self Portrait (Advanced Editing VII*)
Date: Nov 20, 2014
Aperture: 7.1
ISO: 200
Shutter: 1/30
Date Uploaded: Nov 20, 2014

[Nov. 27th, 2014 11:32:09 AM]

I love looking at real before and after work. It's how I learned a lot of what I know in terms of editing portraits. Which is something I love to do. There isn't a whole lot of it out there since Photoshop is always a source of contention and controversy. Some people like it while others feel it masks the truth. I'm the latter of those two. :) I enjoy photoshop (obviously) as I believe the ability to make someone look like they belong in a magazine is good for self esteem. I've had more than a number of people ask me for portraits and headshots of themselves, and along with my regular families/babies/engagements/maternity shoots.... Heashots/fashion/boudoir and portraits make up a good portion of my photo side business.

I know some of you will think this is "overdone" and some will like it as is. Whenever I'm editing portraits I always strive for "magazine" quality, and I know to some of you, even that is "too much". Some have made comments such as this already, but I believe, in part, it's this site that softens photos just a bit, because some of you overuse the "unsharp mask" (in my opinion) :)

If you view this on other sites you'd be able to see more details than what this site is displaying.

As for the actual tutorial, I was impressed by the number of comments I got asking for it. I didn't initially intend to create one.... This was just what I wanted to title it.... But I also realize that many of you do want to learn how, and who would I be if I did not "pay it forward" since I learned myself from online tutorials and others who were kind enough to take the time to post tutorials online.

So, if you are interested, please let me know!! I'm trying to figure out the best way to possibly do a tutorial that is most helpful, so suggestions are welcome. Live Skype session and I share my screen and you can all follow along either with my "before" or your own? Or YouTube tutorial? (Neither of which I've ever done before) :) or just a simple written one?? There are many options.... Those who are truly interested....... Let me know!!




Update for DQ: Well I definitely don't agree, but it is what it is. :)


Here is the Tutorial
Disqualification Details
You may not use ANY editing tool to create new image area, objects or features (such as lens flare or motion) that didn't already exist in your original capture. SC deliberated on this image quite a bit, but eventually decided that the make up constituted an additional feature, especially around the eyes. While a great exmple of can be done in processing; however, we feel it crosses the line in terms of the Advanced editing ruleset.

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12/03/2014 08:17:03 AM
Don't agree with the DQ at all. Excellent work, Samantha!
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12/03/2014 05:23:58 AM
I don't agree on the DQ on this image at all. I feel the features were enhanced.....not necessarily added.....that line which is crossed with editing is different for everyone.....unfortunately.......thus it remains a gray area, and can always be disputed either way.
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12/03/2014 03:02:44 AM
Originally posted by RyanW:

Harsh!
Skin smoothing, tone shifting I see; adding make-up I do not see.
There are no shadings present in the after that are not there in the before (emphasised or toned down some, but not created from nothing).


The eye lashes on her left eye towards the temple definitely were not there on the left shot, so this is added, and in my point of view the DQ is okay, considering the rules.

DQ or no DQ - I still think it's a great job that was done here, and a nice take on the challenge topic.
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12/02/2014 08:00:16 PM
hummm I don't agree with the DQ, It's the quintessential before and after portrait shot! Ask any 40+ lady what they want, truth or PS... I know I'll pick PS EVERY TIME!!!!
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12/02/2014 05:53:09 PM
Great job! I don't agree with the DQ either, But wear the DQ with honor.
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12/02/2014 05:23:20 PM
Just seeing this for the first time. Shame on the DQ.
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12/02/2014 10:10:19 AM
Harsh!
Skin smoothing, tone shifting I see; adding make-up I do not see.
There are no shadings present in the after that are not there in the before (emphasised or toned down some, but not created from nothing).
wait, if they mean the dark mascara-like like, that already exists, she is wearing make-up, it just may not have been 100% completely across the eye, but it was there. mon dieu, this sucks!

Message edited by author 2014-12-02 15:12:44.
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12/02/2014 09:51:27 AM
the war on Photoshop continues. this place is dying.
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12/01/2014 05:08:56 AM
I was really hoping to see the tutorial process in your notes based on the title.
I think the most effective way of doing this tutorial would be a series of "before/during/after" screenshot images with notes, hosted in the "how did they do that" section of the site.

As for the image, I scored it an 8 and think it's a great example of what can be done in the advanced rule set.
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11/30/2014 08:03:30 AM
Congrats! Yes to your tutorial!!! Any format is good with me.
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11/30/2014 04:40:37 AM
What I would be interested in the most would be your editing software (also an actual tutorial on your steps that you took to achieve this)...well done and congrats!!!
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11/29/2014 07:20:19 AM
love it, just a tad overdone. i'd like to see a bit of the skin pores to show through to keep some of the realism but thats my preference.
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11/29/2014 05:14:52 AM
Congrats on the ribbon. I would be interested in the tutorial.
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11/28/2014 12:53:13 PM
Though not an overly huge fan of the 'poreless perfection' school (witness pics of Julia Roberts, who is at least my age if not older) still skin-smoothed to her Pretty Woman days in Cover Girl ads.

If nothing else I want to learn HOW to do this, even if I end up rarely using it.

Anyhoo Congrats on the red, and I'd like my tut written, please! :-)

Message edited by author 2014-11-28 17:58:25.
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11/28/2014 07:42:27 AM
I would love a tutorial!!! Written is fine. Youtube is cool, too. Please do!

Congrats on the red. :)
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11/28/2014 06:06:55 AM
A youtube tutorial or a written one. Please post a tutorial :) this is fantastic. can't wait to learn the technique.
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11/27/2014 07:40:59 PM
You should have a youtube channel of your tutorials. I have always been a fan of your photographs on dpchallenge.
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11/27/2014 07:29:57 PM
Johanna, this was literally after a full day of work and after the gym. I wasn't sure what direction I wanted the color scheme to go in and it was the first color I put on just so that I had SOME lip color. :) during processing I chose a dark eye and a light lip, per regular makeup rules ;)
11/27/2014 07:26:34 PM
Congrats, Samantha. I'm wondering why you selected such a dark lipstick in the before, and lightened it so much in the after...
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
11/26/2014 05:33:01 PM
Wow!
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11/26/2014 12:57:47 PM
I always love your work, and this is no exception. I think that the overall effect would have benefited from a horizontal flip on the second image.
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11/26/2014 08:38:12 AM
+1 for the guts you show (metaphorically speaking)
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11/24/2014 06:03:40 PM
It's easy if you have such a fabulous starting material!
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11/23/2014 12:26:15 PM
Nicely done processing on the shot - has a 'femme fatale' vibe to it, especially with the way you made the eye look. I get the feeling her other hand is holding a .357 magnum or the trigger to a bomb.
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11/23/2014 09:16:54 AM
A nice tutorial on how to post-process a portrait...although a little too over-cooked for my tastes. The skin looks unrealistic/plastic (needs some texture and pores for realism), and the eye is over-sharpened. You've made yourself look like a mannequin. Probably 2/3 of this effect would have been ideal.
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11/22/2014 03:29:19 PM
Looking forward to the tutorial; however, I am afraid that it will take a lot of pp to make this old person look anywhere near your beginning image much less th e final, lol.
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11/22/2014 04:09:20 AM
I was wondering if someone would enter something like this. Nice editing job, but you look great in the before as well.
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11/21/2014 03:16:55 PM
The one on the right looks like an animated character since your skin is so processed, Samantha. I like the hand. :D It looks real.

Regardless, this will do well for you. There's not much competition in this challenge.

7 for now...
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11/21/2014 02:11:42 PM
Oh this was so well done hope it ribbons congrats on a great entry
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11/21/2014 12:53:36 PM
Ok Sam, I hope you're ready for the flood of requests on how to do this...so I hope you're ready! If I'd known just a fraction of what you and Christophe know, I wouldn't have to fall back on stuff like high-key to make me look half as good :-)

Sooo...tut, please! ASAP!! And grats on the new job, hope it's better than the old one.
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11/21/2014 07:26:12 AM
Excellent work
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11/21/2014 05:58:06 AM
Fascinating idea for this theme, and very well executed. There is much for me to learn from this. Thanks.
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11/21/2014 02:57:40 AM
10. My Crystal Ball is showing the color blue for some reason..
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11/20/2014 07:52:24 PM
Perfect. a 10 from me
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