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06/13/2004 08:34:23 PM · #1 |
Looking for a consensus...
any comments before I start voting? |
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06/13/2004 08:38:36 PM · #2 |
Transportation is something that takes a person from one place to another, so why not.
Notice: Didn't enter and not voting, but I would consider them transportation. |
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06/13/2004 08:39:51 PM · #3 |
| Yeah, I don't have a problem with those. I think I might feel differently if the challenge were titled "transportation" and the details limited the scope. But with a challenge of P, T, & A, I think those sorts of autos and planes are as much within the scope as photos of toy planes, trains, etc. Anyway, that's my weigh-in. Back to the voting! |
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06/13/2004 08:42:56 PM · #4 |
You only do it if is shaved?car is a car is a car....
Enough of this meet the challenge consesus #@%$*& |
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06/13/2004 08:44:49 PM · #5 |
Would some kind of consturctiony truck work, like a bulldozer? It's an automobile, has an engine, etc.
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06/13/2004 08:47:18 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by pitsaman:
You only do it if is shaved?car is a car is a car....
Enough of this meet the challenge consesus #@%$*& |
Amen to that! Automobiles are automobiles. What if I said I am only counting blue mini coopers as automobiles in my voting? I would be no worse than some of you guys.
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06/13/2004 08:50:17 PM · #7 |
| I say ignore the quality of the image , If I haven't been in one, then it isn't a form of train, plane, or John Candy movie. I give it a one. Oh and narrow guage rail cars are out too. |
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06/13/2004 08:51:11 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
I say ignore the quality of the image , If I haven't been in one, then it isn't a form of train, plane, or John Candy movie. I give it a one. Oh and narrow guage rail cars are out too. |
dude? Did you submit?
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06/13/2004 08:52:32 PM · #9 |
Is an automobile anything that moves with an engine and has wheels and can travel on a road and something you have to steer? 'Cause I'm getting murdered in the score for not having an "automobile".
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06/13/2004 08:54:24 PM · #10 |
Again!! Does ANYONE look past the straight up....fact of the matter...exact freakin wording of these challenges!?! This always drives me nuts. LOOK AT THE PICTURES PEOPLE!! Not the flash and blur that appears as you keep clicking where the 4 button shows up. Sorry...just looked at my score. Thought I had a good interpretation...guess it wasn't obvious enough.. SIGH
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06/13/2004 08:57:52 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Again!! Does ANYONE look past the straight up....fact of the matter...exact freakin wording of these challenges!?! This always drives me nuts. LOOK AT THE PICTURES PEOPLE!! Not the flash and blur that appears as you keep clicking where the 4 button shows up. Sorry...just looked at my score. Thought I had a good interpretation...guess it wasn't obvious enough.. SIGH |
Amen to that, again. DPC went through this "does not meet the challenge" phase about 6 months ago, and I thought it had gotten behind us. But here it is again. Open your minds, folks. If the shot has a train, or a plane, or an automobile in it, then it meets the challenge! It's quite simple.
By the way, I did not enter this challenge, so I'm only complaining on behalf of folks like dacrazyrn who are getting beat up over semantics.
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06/13/2004 09:00:19 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by C_Steve_G:
Looking for a consensus...
any comments before I start voting? |
I don't use either for transportation, so they must not be transportation. |
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06/13/2004 09:03:31 PM · #13 |
| Here we go again. I give up. |
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06/13/2004 09:03:35 PM · #14 |
CAR FUN FACT
The origin of the word automobile is credited to a 14th Century Italian painter and engineer named Martini. The word comes from the Greek word, "auto," (meaning self) and the Latin word, "mobils," (meaning moving). He never built an automobile, but he did draw plans for a man-powered carriage with four wheels. The word car comes from the Celtic word "carrus," (meaning cart or wagon).
the above is NOT from dictionary.com
James |
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06/13/2004 09:05:19 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Again!! Does ANYONE look past the straight up....fact of the matter...exact freakin wording of these challenges!?! This always drives me nuts. LOOK AT THE PICTURES PEOPLE!! Not the flash and blur that appears as you keep clicking where the 4 button shows up. Sorry...just looked at my score. Thought I had a good interpretation...guess it wasn't obvious enough.. SIGH |
There seems to be an ongoing trend of finding, seatching for minut details, real or toherwise, to justify voting low. I dont get it. I cant remember the last time I got a comment based on technique during a challenge. It seems folks are trying to vote low for any reason. I would rather get a comment that says, "I'm voting low bc I entered the challenge" than "you didnt meet the challenge bc your shot was taken on a cloudy day instead of sunny one."
I mean, my abstract challenge shot was a recognisable object but it WAS still an abstract image. Folks just low balled dude! It's just wrong!
Where's the LOVE people?
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06/13/2004 09:06:15 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by StevePax:
Open your minds, folks. If the shot has a train, or a plane, or an automobile in it, then it meets the challenge! It's quite simple. |
Furthermore if it has a tram, a glider or a bus in the photograph, try looking at the quality of the shot even if the subject just shades the outside of your take on the subject matter. If the person tried to fulfill the challenge, try to fulfill your role and fairly judge what they shot. If it is a picture of a cat on a windowsill, flame away.
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06/13/2004 09:08:57 PM · #17 |
I had intended to use some photos from
Granges Kart Racing
Unfortunately I arrived too late, everyone had left by 4PM.
Sounds like Karts would not have worked very well, and I'm better off without the photos. |
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06/13/2004 09:09:41 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by StevePax:
Open your minds, folks. If the shot has a train, or a plane, or an automobile in it, then it meets the challenge! It's quite simple. |
Furthermore if it has a tram, a glider or a bus in the photograph, try looking at the quality of the shot even if the subject just shades the outside of your take on the subject matter. If the person tried to fulfill the challenge, try to fulfill your role and fairly judge what they shot. If it is a picture of a cat on a windowsill, flame away. |
hehehe. Good one!
Why would anyone do this if they are trying to propel their own submission? I didnt realise how much a vote & how one votes mattered as much as it does (recently learned from numerous threads about self-serving voting practices). It's been a sad realisation for me. It's remarkable how much the site can change in such a little time.
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06/13/2004 09:10:49 PM · #19 |
I hereby decree that I have personally examined every single shot in the PT&A challenge, and I have found that every one, without exception, contains an adequate representation of either a Plane, a Train, or an Automobile, or a combination of the above. Therefore, every shot in this challenge "meets the challenge."
Now, no one has to worry about it anymore. Every shot is fine. Vote on the picture.
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06/13/2004 09:48:10 PM · #20 |
Thanks.
Got the reply I was looking for... and more.
In my view, a submission has to completely ignore the challenge as stated, before I'll score it low on that basis.
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06/13/2004 10:26:07 PM · #21 |
Hey my score is very very bad, it must be cos people don't think I meet the challenge... Actually no, it's cos my photo sucks :P
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06/13/2004 10:28:12 PM · #22 |
| I love my photo and I don't give $%#$* for the score ! |
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06/13/2004 10:39:02 PM · #23 |
I like mine as well and I have been asked if its for real???!!!
What next! |
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06/14/2004 02:18:38 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by StevePax:
Open your minds, folks. If the shot has a train, or a plane, or an automobile in it, then it meets the challenge! It's quite simple. |
Furthermore if it has a tram, a glider or a bus in the photograph, try looking at the quality of the shot even if the subject just shades the outside of your take on the subject matter. If the person tried to fulfill the challenge, try to fulfill your role and fairly judge what they shot. If it is a picture of a cat on a windowsill, flame away. |
Too funny. That means that if I see an awesome shot of a sunset with a beautiful winding road and two tiny barely visible headlights or tail lights somewhere in the shot that I should give its creator the same or better score than equally nice shots of clear airplane, automobile or train studies? Ummm... NO!. Furthermore, the challenge clearly stated that your options are limited to planes, trains, and automobiles. That's pretty clear. But, that's just my worthless opinion, right? I'll vote my way, everyone else will too and, 9.5 times out of 10, the shots deserve the scores they get.
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06/14/2004 03:23:14 AM · #25 |
A shot of a car set against an immense landscape as you describe of course would meet the challenge - such an image would be loaded with ideas of the weakness of man's pride in his technology, or of the power of the planet to take car of itself against our attempts to poison it, etc. etc. Ideas of distance and assisted travel would also come into that, ideas of the conquering of nature, and possibly the hubris attendant on that.
Why would you say that the shot you describe would be outside the challenge? Of course, you might not like that approach, or some quality of the shot, but judging merely on the size of one subject in frame seems restrictive to me.
I should add that I didn't submit  for exactly the fear of that kind of voting, however.
Ed
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