Buying existing images - DPChallenge Forums

12/11/2009 06:10:38 AM · #26

Originally posted by JayA:

Its not always dpc members. Dont worry they wont mind at all if you contact them via a pm.

Are dpc members contacted via email when a PM is sent to them? I wonder if some of the people I have contacted don't visit the site any longer.

bmatt17

Canon EOS-600D/T3i Rebel

12/11/2009 08:42:43 AM · #27

I think so, just sent you a test PM.

Olympus 50mm f/2.0 Macro ED Zuiko Digital

12/11/2009 09:13:51 AM · #28

bmatt17, thank you. I received an email notification of your Private Message.

Message edited by author 2009-12-11 15:10:18.

slaakso

Olympus E-510

12/12/2009 02:17:47 PM · #29

I am curious as to the going rate for reselling photos. Let's say in 4 x 6 size. More precisely I am asking how much would I charge wholesale for the photo sold to the reseller? This is something that has never come up for me before so I am in the dark about it. Any help would be appreciated.

Skip

Canon EOS-1D X

Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM

12/12/2009 05:51:47 PM · #30

Originally posted by slaakso:

it all depends on what you're selling and who you're selling to. if you're licensing them to a reseller, you might charge a 15% royalty off the top of what the reseller sales (or you might negotiate a flat rate up front). on the other hand, if you're selling fine art prints directly to "semi-discerning" individuals, you might price them fairly high and not even offer anything smaller than a framed 5x7 (think like $50 as a starting point). if you're selling sports snapshots to little league parents, you might be selling them for $5.

12/15/2009 05:44:55 AM · #31

Originally posted by GeneralE:

If you are simply buying a physical print and re-selling it, you don't need any "rights" from the photographer; it is tangible property and yours to keep, sell, or give away.

I had the feeling that there might be more to this than just buying a physical print and reselling it.

I found a DPCPrint that I wanted to buy (and, yes, resell). I mentioned this to the photographer and they reminded me that they had my name and email address and would prosecute me if I resold their work without permission.

I guess the best thing for me to do is to hire a photographer with a contract that states that I get the right to resell the image that I have purchased.

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

12/15/2009 06:10:25 AM · #32

Originally posted by testerd:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

If you are simply buying a physical print and re-selling it, you don't need any "rights" from the photographer; it is tangible property and yours to keep, sell, or give away.

I had the feeling that there might be more to this than just buying a physical print and reselling it.

I found a DPCPrint that I wanted to buy (and, yes, resell). I mentioned this to the photographer and they reminded me that they had my name and email address and would prosecute me if I resold their work without permission.

I guess the best thing for me to do is to hire a photographer with a contract that states that I get the right to resell the image that I have purchased.

GeneralIE's statement (above) is sound. The only (possible and somewhat far-fetched) exception: you cannot use the print (or distribute/sell copies of it) to claim or to deliberately create the impression that the image was taken by anyone other than its true author.

Message edited by author 2009-12-15 11:14:27.

Neil

Fujifilm X-T20

12/15/2009 06:15:46 AM · #33

Originally posted by testerd:

The only point of clarification to GeneralE's tangible property is that you can only sell the prints you buy. You can not reproduce it yourself and then resell it. In that way, it should be no different than buying a Van Gogh, just a bit cheaper :)

Simms

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/15/2009 07:22:39 AM · #34

Testerd - can you clarify what you are after? You want to buy the print? Copy it and resell it multiple times?

If thats the case I can probably help you out with the moon pic, we have one here that looks just like it.. msg me and we can talk $$$ - I will certainly sell you a shot of the moon and sell the whole thing across to you lock stock and barrel - you can even have the RAW file, the large JPG, whatever you want..

how much $$$ were you thinking?

tell you - $50 for a shot of the full moon with great detail. I'll grab it for you ESPECIALLY - seriously, your own personal commission and you can do whatever you want with it.

Heh, you guys kill me, sit here arguing the toss and letting a business opportunity slip away. Its the moon for !%&Â£s sake!

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

12/15/2009 07:28:00 AM · #35

Originally posted by Simms:

Heh, you guys kill me, sit here arguing the toss and letting a business opportunity slip away. Its the moon for !%&Â£s sake!

12/15/2009 08:30:38 AM · #36

Originally posted by Simms:

Testerd - can you clarify what you are after? You want to buy the print? Copy it and resell it multiple times?

In the situation where I described that the photographer wouldn't permit me to sell the print I bought I was exactly referring to buying one print and reselling one print...yes, I was intending to sell it for more than I had purchased it for.

I have since been contacted regarding your offer and was told that me buying your picture of the moon would also be copyright infringement because I am creating a derivative work from an original.

I cannot believe how impossible it is to buy pictures.

davidw

Canon EOS R6

12/15/2009 08:37:28 AM · #37

You can do anything you want with the picture, as long as it is part of the agreement that you make with the photographer beforehand.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

12/15/2009 08:43:54 AM · #38

The picture is for sale on DPCPrints but the photographer told me that I will not resell the print that I buy. So I guess that is the agreement.

I should have never contacted him to compliment him and mention that I was going to resell the picture (or try to) at a flea market.

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

12/15/2009 08:45:50 AM · #39

Originally posted by testerd:

I have since been contacted regarding your offer and was told that me buying your picture of the moon would also be copyright infringement because I am creating a derivative work from an original.

This person has image coprights on the moon?

Gosh, I better never show the shot I took of the moon to anyone.....glad you told me!

Does that sound anywhere near as ridiculous to you guys as it does to me?

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

12/15/2009 08:51:53 AM · #40

Reselling an image usually conjures up thoughts of re-posting the file on a stock photo site or printing calendars. In those cases, you are reproducing the photographer's work, and that would definitely be a copyright issue. However, if you buy a print and resell that single print, I can't imagine why it would be a problem. You paid for the print, and you should be able to give it away or sell it as you see fit. That's the whole premise of investing in fine art.

Simms

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/15/2009 09:23:27 AM · #41

Originally posted by testerd:

I have since been contacted regarding your offer and was told that me buying your picture of the moon would also be copyright infringement because I am creating a derivative work from an original.

I cannot believe how impossible it is to buy pictures.

LOL, someone on here said that - oh go on, tell us who it was...

FOR SALE - PICTURE OF MOON - $50 - UNLIMITED USAGE..

12/15/2009 09:34:33 AM · #42

The person is a paid member with multiple years membership. I am not here to step on anyone's toes. I'm sure I'll be banned in no time flat.

pamelasue

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

12/15/2009 09:37:18 AM · #43

Originally posted by testerd:

The person is a paid member with multiple years membership. I am not here to step on anyone's toes. I'm sure I'll be banned in no time flat.

I've got a pic of the moon I'll sell you ... moon

Simms

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/15/2009 09:38:58 AM · #44

Originally posted by testerd:

The person is a paid member with multiple years membership. I am not here to step on anyone's toes. I'm sure I'll be banned in no time flat.

not at all. seriously, if one got banned for stepping on toes I would of been booted out of here years ago.

seriously, we haven't had a good witch hunt in days.

SaraR

Sony Alpha a7R III

Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM

12/15/2009 10:17:02 AM · #45

Originally posted by Simms:

[quote=testerd]
seriously, we haven't had a good witch hunt in days.

Out! LOL!

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

12/15/2009 01:23:31 PM · #46

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by testerd:
I have since been contacted regarding your offer and was told that me buying your picture of the moon would also be copyright infringement because I am creating a derivative work from an original.

This person has image coprights on the moon?

I'm Shocked, Simply SHOCKED!

Matthew