Canon 7D Questions - DPChallenge Forums

10/01/2009 07:16:49 PM · #76

Originally posted by rider:

any other 1st thoughts about the new toy shannon?

Yeah... there's so many new options that after 6 Canon DSLRs, I might actually have to read the manual. :-O

Originally posted by rider:

BETTER FOCUS!!!!!

Message edited by author 2009-10-01 23:26:52.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

10/01/2009 07:36:25 PM · #77

DOES THAT MEAN I CAN'T USE IT TILL NEXT MONTH AFTER I FINALLY FINISH READING THE BOOK THAT COMES WITH IT THAT I STARTED READING LAST MONTH? OHHH LORD!!!!!

Message edited by author 2009-10-01 23:36:47.

ben4345

Nikon D700

10/01/2009 07:39:42 PM · #78

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by ben4345:
Just curious what made you all decide on the 7D rather than the 5D MK2? Other than cost, of course.

8fps, more telephoto reach, wireless flash control, 24p video, cheap radio remotes, electronic level, 100% viewfinder, smaller file sizes, lots of buttons, and $1000 cheaper. I already have a 10mm lens, so the only downside for me is a little more noise.

I thought you said it is about 1 stop better.

Originally posted by scalvert:

My main concern was noise, so that was the first thing to check. From what I can tell on a few quick snapshots, high ISO noise levels are slightly better than the 40D/50D, but thanks to the higher resolution it's a finer grain. Net result is about a 1-stop improvement at the same image size. 1600 is pretty clean, 3200 is usable, and 6400 is nasty.

Message edited by author 2009-10-01 23:40:16.

trevytrev

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

10/01/2009 08:01:03 PM · #79

I think Shannon meant that it is about 1 stop better than the 40D/50D but a slight bit of increase in noise over the 5D MKII.

photodude

10/02/2009 03:22:46 AM · #80

Originally posted by scalvert:

My main concern was noise, so that was the first thing to check. From what I can tell on a few quick snapshots, high ISO noise levels are slightly better than the 40D/50D, but thanks to the higher resolution it's a finer grain. Net result is about a 1-stop improvement at the same image size. 1600 is pretty clean, 3200 is usable, and 6400 is nasty.

How noisy is it in the 800-1000 range? Are those images clean without noise reduction processing?

10/02/2009 06:56:23 AM · #81

Originally posted by trevytrev:

I think Shannon meant that it is about 1 stop better than the 40D/50D but a slight bit of increase in noise over the 5D MKII.

Yes, that's exactly what I meant.

Originally posted by photodude:

How noisy is it in the 800-1000 range? Are those images clean without noise reduction processing?

Here's a {very} casual test from last night... all shot in JPEG (I normally shoot RAW) at default camera settings with an 85mm handheld at f/2.0. No processing or adjustments- just cropped.

800

1600

3200

6400

Bear in mind that with so much resolution you'd normally view or print the images much smaller than 100%, so the grain is less prominent than it appears. I'd consider the images clean up to ISO 1600. ISO 3200 is decent, and ISO 6400 would work fine for smaller prints.

MikeO

Fujifilm x100

10/02/2009 07:24:14 AM · #82

Good looking shots, even at 6400 its not too bad and looks usable to me.

I dont need one.....I dont need one.....I dont need one...

Enjoy

Five_Seat

Canon EOS-6D

10/02/2009 07:27:29 AM · #83

Originally posted by MikeOwens:

Good looking shots, even at 6400 its not too bad and looks usable to me.

I dont need one.....I dont need one.....I dont need one...

Enjoy

Haha I am in the same boat!

...MUST RESIST URGE TO WALK TO ADORAMA/B&H/CALUMET...STAY STRONG...CAN'T HOLD ON MUCH LON....

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

10/02/2009 07:39:27 AM · #84

Go for it, guys. Just wait a month so I can try to get at least one shot on the camera page before you do take the plunge, OK? (I mean seriously, Shannon can't enter 30 challenges in a single month, so I have a fighting chance if mine gets here soon enough!)

MikeO

Fujifilm x100

10/02/2009 08:15:26 AM · #85

Originally posted by Melethia:

Go for it, guys...

You are bad !

;-)

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

10/02/2009 08:23:38 AM · #86

Oh you don't know the half of it. I'm using my purchase of the 7D to spur on a friend who's waffling on the 5D Mark II. I'm evil....

So go put your order in now. You know you want to....

10/02/2009 10:22:37 AM · #87

orignally posted by scalvert
Bear in mind that with so much resolution you'd normally view or print the images much smaller than 100%, so the grain is less prominent than it appears. I'd consider the images clean up to ISO 1600. ISO 3200 is decent, and ISO 6400 would work fine for smaller prints. [/quote]

I'm guessing its all smiles for you?

Message edited by author 2009-10-02 14:24:54.

Terramar

Tamron SP AF 11-18mm Aspherical Di II LD IF f/4.5-5.6 for Canon Digital

10/02/2009 10:26:45 AM · #88

I ordered my 7D from Adorama. Apparently the first batch was sent out and I'm on the second waiting list. Has anyone ordered and received their 7D from Adorama? I wonder how much longer the wait will be. Hopefully it won't be weeks or months!

keriboi

Canon PowerShot G10

Tamron AF 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di II for Canon

10/02/2009 10:52:34 AM · #89

I want to hear what people think of the 7d that are moving from a 50D to the 7D.

Photologist

Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

10/02/2009 11:45:34 AM · #90

Originally posted by scalvert:

Bear in mind that with so much resolution you'd normally view or print the images much smaller than 100%, so the grain is less prominent than it appears. I'd consider the images clean up to ISO 1600. ISO 3200 is decent, and ISO 6400 would work fine for smaller prints.

That's what utilities like "NeatImage" is for.

Photologist

Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

10/02/2009 12:03:50 PM · #91

Originally posted by MikeOwens:

Good looking shots, even at 6400 its not too bad and looks usable to me.

Here's another image captured at ISO 6400 ...

Olympus 12-45mm /f4.0 Pro

10/02/2009 12:41:38 PM · #92

Originally posted by keriboi:

I want to hear what people think of the 7d that are moving from a 50D to the 7D.

My last camera was a 50D. That camera was a little smaller and lighter. In every other aspect, the 7D is equal to or better than the 50D... mostly better.

OdysseyF22

Panasonic DC-G9

10/02/2009 01:09:36 PM · #93

I emailed Newegg's support to ask them when mine would arrive :-) They said it would be processed to arrive by the official release date of 10/6. Not sure how that's the "official date," but whatever. I wanted it for a gig this weekend, but I guess I can wait a few more days.

jotaga

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

10/02/2009 01:21:45 PM · #94

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by keriboi:
I want to hear what people think of the 7d that are moving from a 50D to the 7D.

My last camera was a 50D. That camera was a little smaller and lighter. In every other aspect, the 7D is equal to or better than the 50D... mostly better.

Congrats on your new camera,

scalvert! I am really interested on getting one too! I know that it will be a HUGE improvement over my 450D, but my main reasons on upgrading (besides the weather sealing and high ISO performance) would be the 8fps and the wireless flash. Could you please tell us if these two features are effective?

photodude

10/02/2009 02:54:54 PM · #95

Originally posted by OdysseyF22:

I called up pretending to be you and said that it was unacceptable for them to just hold it for an "official release date", especially when we know Shannon got his. Then I said "I (meaning you) didnt want the camera from them and they should cancel the order because I could get it elsewhere". You need to stop letting people push you around like that (and posting where you order things). Some day you'll thank me.

BTW, then I called back 15 minutes later asked if they had any in stock, and they said, surprising you should call, we just got a cancellation, so I bought it.

The End

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

10/02/2009 03:04:17 PM · #96

Originally posted by scalvert:

In every other aspect, the 7D is equal to or better than the 50D... mostly better.

I hear that the free study enhancement module is extra though.

OdysseyF22

Panasonic DC-G9

Olympus 12-45mm /f4.0 Pro

10/02/2009 03:27:47 PM · #97

Originally posted by photodude:

Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
I emailed Newegg's support to ask them when mine would arrive :-) They said it would be processed to arrive by the official release date of 10/6. Not sure how that's the "official date," but whatever. I wanted it for a gig this weekend, but I guess I can wait a few more days.

I called up pretending to be you and said that it was unacceptable for them to just hold it for an "official release date", especially when we know Shannon got his. Then I said "I (meaning you) didnt want the camera from them and they should cancel the order because I could get it elsewhere". You need to stop letting people push you around like that (and posting where you order things). Some day you'll thank me.

BTW, then I called back 15 minutes later asked if they had any in stock, and they said, surprising you should call, we just got a cancellation, so I bought it.

The End

So you're going to be at Ricketts soon? On top of a waterfall? Leaning out over the edge to take a picture?
I can work with that.

:-)

10/02/2009 04:34:28 PM · #98

a little teaser for you guys i took this tonight right before dark and have only had a hour or so to play so i really didn't do much yet!!

10/03/2009 02:39:39 PM · #99

Originally posted by rider:

I'm guessing its all smiles for you?

Oh absolutely! I finally had a chance to give the camera a workout at a country fair, and I wasn't disappointed. These are JPEG shots scaled to 25%- no other processing. The tractor photo is ISO 640 and the other three are ISO 1600. What noise? :-D