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 06/17/2009 12:30:10 PM · #251
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Oh man, hoist by my own petar!


pssst: it's petard.


I was using Shakespeare's spelling. neener.

There's letters seal'd: and my two schoolfellows,
Whom I will trust as I will adders fang'd,
They bear the mandate; they must sweep my way
And marshal me to knavery. Let it work;
For 'tis the sport to have the enginer
Hoist with his own petar; and 't shall go hard
But I will delve one yard below their mines
And blow them at the moon: O, 'tis most sweet,
When in one line two crafts directly meet.

06/17/2009 12:31:39 PM · #252
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Oh man, hoist by my own petar!


pssst: it's petard.


I was using Shakespeare's spelling. neener.

There's letters seal'd: and my two schoolfellows,
Whom I will trust as I will adders fang'd,
They bear the mandate; they must sweep my way
And marshal me to knavery. Let it work;
For 'tis the sport to have the enginer
Hoist with his own petar; and 't shall go hard
But I will delve one yard below their mines
And blow them at the moon: O, 'tis most sweet,
When in one line two crafts directly meet.


Doc, doc, doc, you should know better than to trust Cole's Notes.
 06/17/2009 12:32:38 PM · #253
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I was using Shakespeare's spelling. neener.


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edit: I was typing gibberish. neener. neenooo.

Message edited by author 2009-06-17 16:33:12.
 06/17/2009 12:33:11 PM · #254
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Doc, doc, doc, you should know better than to trust Cole's Notes.


Prick me, Ed. Do I not bleed?
 06/17/2009 12:34:34 PM · #255
Ok, enough hijack.

To bring it back, I asked above if anybody had found a link to a page talking about the bicycle picture and anything HCB said about it. Anybody find anything? Does the picture even have a title?
 06/17/2009 12:36:24 PM · #256
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Doc, doc, doc, you should know better than to trust Cole's Notes.


Prick me, Ed. Do I not bleed?


There are so many ways I could take this question...
 06/17/2009 12:38:49 PM · #257
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Goddammit Rob, He's a Doctor not an English Major.


Well, yeah, but he opened himself to righteous ripostes when he chose to educate tnun on the subject of grammar :-)

R.
 06/17/2009 12:45:23 PM · #258
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
[quote=tnun] ...Substance and form are dependent on each other. One is not derivative from the other. Substance can show through without form but it can be better shown through form. Form can exist without substance, but it better when substance exists.


I'd substitute content for substance and say (not the first to say it either): Content is form. This just to show where form comes from and why it is so and not otherwise.

Message edited by author 2009-06-17 16:46:30.
 06/17/2009 12:46:51 PM · #259
I wish I could remember what I was supposed to be doing today; were I more effete I suppose it wouldn't matter one whiff of a nun's petard.
 06/17/2009 12:47:58 PM · #260
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Ok, enough hijack.

To bring it back, I asked above if anybody had found a link to a page talking about the bicycle picture and anything HCB said about it. Anybody find anything? Does the picture even have a title?


There are lots of pages that talk about it, it's a very famous image. Google Cartier Bresson "Hyeres, France 1932" (that's the actual title of the image. I haven't found anything HE said about it himself, but he did write several books and I suppose he might have mentioned it in one of them. Good luck.

R.
 06/17/2009 12:50:21 PM · #261
For those who are wondering, a "petard" was a small explosive device used for breaching walls and gates, and was employed by an engineer. To be "hoist by one's own petard", then, means "to be hurt, or destroyed by one's own plot or device, of one's own doing which one intended for another; to be blown up by one's own bomb".

R.
 06/17/2009 01:17:02 PM · #262
Originally posted by tnun:
I wish I could remember what I was supposed to be doing today; were I more effete I suppose it wouldn't matter one whiff of a nun's petard.


(in my best Spaniard accent) You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I always though effete meant impotent, weak.

Message edited by author 2009-06-17 17:17:19.
 06/17/2009 01:23:25 PM · #263
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by tnun:
I wish I could remember what I was supposed to be doing today; were I more effete I suppose it wouldn't matter one whiff of a nun's petard.


(in my best Spaniard accent) You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I always though effete meant impotent, weak.


wordnet and wiki:

# decadent: marked by excessive self-indulgence and moral decay; "a decadent life of excessive money and no sense of responsibility"; "a group of ...
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# Lacking strength or vitality; feeble, powerless, impotent; decadent, self-indulgent, effeminate
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/effete

It's popularly a term used to denote the lack of manly qualities in intellectual snobs, basically. Spiro Agnew (remember him?) used it in one of his speeches and got hammered :-)

R.

Message edited by author 2009-06-17 17:27:25.
 06/17/2009 01:25:04 PM · #264
Well, at least I got one thing right in this thread. ;)
 06/17/2009 01:26:03 PM · #265
Just to make sure I got this right - is it pronounced " F it "?
 06/17/2009 01:26:57 PM · #266
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Just to make sure I got this right - is it pronounced " F it "?


I prefer "Ewww... Feet!"

R.
 06/17/2009 01:27:44 PM · #267
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Well, at least I got one thing right in this thread. ;)


Good on ya', mate!

R.
 06/17/2009 01:35:24 PM · #268
Originally posted by DrAchoo:


Prick me, Ed. Do I not bleed?


I think you might need to get a shot for that.
 06/17/2009 01:36:55 PM · #269
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:


Prick me, Ed. Do I not bleed?


I think you might need to get a shot for that.


There are no shots for what I carry in my prick.
 06/17/2009 01:56:12 PM · #270
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Ok, enough hijack.

To bring it back, I asked above if anybody had found a link to a page talking about the bicycle picture and anything HCB said about it. Anybody find anything? Does the picture even have a title?


There are lots of pages that talk about it, it's a very famous image. Google Cartier Bresson "Hyeres, France 1932" (that's the actual title of the image. I haven't found anything HE said about it himself, but he did write several books and I suppose he might have mentioned it in one of them. Good luck.

R.


Did somebody here write that he droped his camera when he took Hyeres? I never heard that story but found this...

"Then there are famous images, such as Behind Saint-Lazare Station, Paris, 1932, in which the blurred figure of man, smart in his overcoat and hat, is caught in mid-air leaping over a puddle. It is this kind of shot, of a split-second happening, that led Cartier-Bresson to be labelled the photographer of the decisive moment.

It is seen again in a photograph of the strict formal geometry of an outside staircase that is humanised by the blurred figure of a cyclist racing past on the street below (Hyères, France, 1932). Cartier-Bresson saw the staircase, realized its photographic potential, and then sat and waited for some sort of human element to intrude and complete the shot.

There are multiple shots of the same scene, which show how Cartier-Bresson's technique could bring an image together, creating what he called a "coincidence of line". It is the way his eye structured the surface of an image. In his words: "To take a photograph means to recognize – simultaneously and within a fraction of a second– both the fact itself and the rigorous organisation of visually perceived forms that give it meaning.""
 06/17/2009 02:03:48 PM · #271
Henri must've had a really good camera.
 06/17/2009 02:07:23 PM · #272
Originally posted by pawdrix:


"Then there are famous images, such as Behind Saint-Lazare Station, Paris, 1932, in which the blurred figure of man, smart in his overcoat and hat, is caught in mid-air leaping over a puddle. It is this kind of shot, of a split-second happening, that led Cartier-Bresson to be labelled the photographer of the decisive moment.

It is seen again in a photograph of the strict formal geometry of an outside staircase that is humanised by the blurred figure of a cyclist racing past on the street below (Hyères, France, 1932). Cartier-Bresson saw the staircase, realized its photographic potential, and then sat and waited for some sort of human element to intrude and complete the shot.

There are multiple shots of the same scene, which show how Cartier-Bresson's technique could bring an image together, creating what he called a "coincidence of line". It is the way his eye structured the surface of an image. In his words: "To take a photograph means to recognize – simultaneously and within a fraction of a second– both the fact itself and the rigorous organisation of visually perceived forms that give it meaning.""


there is one photo i took, which relate to this very well.



this photo, i realised that it makes powerfule picture and decided everything about framing. But waited till first i got human element in frame. Plus i waited till i got them alone in frame.
osaka is very busy airport, and i got a fraction of second in which they were alone in frame.
it was tough but worth waiting.
 06/17/2009 02:07:26 PM · #273
I think that is a common misconception of HCB, that he walked around with his camera snapping up pictures by mere chance.

Most of his early work he would find a spot/scene and wait for hours for some subject to interact in that scene and then shoot the picture.

However, HCB's later work is much more a PJ style (walking around) and much of it was for news/magazines of the time.
His famous stuff is the early work, but the later stuff really shines in it's own right.
 06/17/2009 02:08:06 PM · #274
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Henri must've had a really good camera.


that is actually very true. he worked with best equipment of his time.
 06/17/2009 02:30:10 PM · #275
Originally posted by zxaar:
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Henri must've had a really good camera.


that is actually very true. he worked with best equipment of his time.

I seem to remember somethng about a Leica with a 50mm prime lens ...
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