Motion Panning III - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/10/2009 01:54:54 AM · #1

Motion Panning
Motion Panning II

Bad timing again lol

Citadel

Nikon D7500

06/10/2009 01:57:03 AM · #2

The last one made me grumpy. There were a lot of shots that had motion but weren't actually panning. I also know I wasn't the only one who felt this way. and um..I also know there were a lot of people who disagreed.

Let the debate begin. :(

Delta_6

06/10/2009 02:11:38 AM · #3

Finally! Something I consider myself good at! I look forward to seeing where I place in this one, on another photography website I have won 3 panning challenges but the level of competition is nothing when compared to this site.

ETA

This is what I call panning

The object in motion is in clear focus while the background is in horizonal blur from camera motion.

Message edited by author 2009-06-10 06:14:58.

Sony DT 18-70mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Zoom Lens for Sony Alpha

06/10/2009 02:26:38 AM · #4

Time to switch to "Active VR"

SoulMan1978

Sony Alpha a55

06/10/2009 03:11:21 AM · #5

Also there was this challenge last year:

Panning

I would like to promise not to enter another train shot, but I dare say I won't be able to resist ;-)

Message edited by author 2009-06-10 07:14:20.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G DX VR

06/10/2009 04:05:51 AM · #6

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Message edited by author 2009-06-10 12:11:33.

slientsupernova

Nikon D3000

06/10/2009 04:53:50 AM · #7

For those of us a bit new to this, any tips or advice on how to create a great submission?

Sony DT 18-70mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Zoom Lens for Sony Alpha

06/10/2009 05:08:14 AM · #8

Originally posted by slientsupernova:

For those of us a bit new to this, any tips or advice on how to create a great submission?

I'm not expert at this and that's for sure but if you have a VR lens I think you are supposed to select Active rather than normal.
Then, and this is only my opinion, I would set your focus to continous so as to make sure your camera is always trying to focus on the
main subject that you want in focus.
Then play around with shutter speed and aperture to get the desired amount of blur for your background.
I would go for continous shutter so that you can pop off loads of shots.
Watchout for stationary things that become a long streak of blur and prove distracting like the bouy in my shot shown at the begining of this thread.

I have tried using a tripod but to be honest I have had more success hand holding

Good luck...

SoulMan1978

Sony Alpha a55

06/10/2009 08:25:17 AM · #9

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

Originally posted by slientsupernova:
For those of us a bit new to this, any tips or advice on how to create a great submission?

I'm not expert at this and that's for sure but if you have a VR lens I think you are supposed to select Active rather than normal.
Then, and this is only my opinion, I would set your focus to continous so as to make sure your camera is always trying to focus on the
main subject that you want in focus.
Then play around with shutter speed and aperture to get the desired amount of blur for your background.
I would go for continous shutter so that you can pop off loads of shots.
Watchout for stationary things that become a long streak of blur and prove distracting like the bouy in my shot shown at the begining of this thread.

I have tried using a tripod but to be honest I have had more success hand holding

Good luck...

I would absolutely agree with all of this.

Take lots and lots of shots. The more shots you take the more likely you are to get a "hit". I took 200 in two half hour sessions for my last go, leftmost of the three pics in my previous post.

If you shoot RAW & JPEG normally, don't for this - use RAW instead. Your camera will take less time to write the files, hence filling the buffer less quickly, so if you shoot continuously like Will said then you'll get more shots. Use the fastest-writing memory card you have for the same reason.

If possible, engineer your background so you have a little bit of "business" like a tree in the background (just enough to make the motion clear) but not too much to distract from your subject.

As for aperture, I used something ridiculous like F20 to slow down the shutter speed and enhance the blur, but it depends on your panning skills and how much light you have etc (plus how fast your subject is moving). I shot in aperture priority but in hindsight I would use shutter priority.

Sheryll

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

06/10/2009 08:36:54 AM · #10

Something like these?

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

06/10/2009 08:45:41 AM · #11

Originally posted by Sheryll:

Something like these?

yes, yes, no (unless you were not on the merry-go-found).

Message edited by author 2009-06-10 12:46:30.

06/10/2009 09:00:42 AM · #12

Oh...oh...oh...I am SOOOOOOO looking forward to this challenge...!!!

rrdjserv

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

06/12/2009 11:15:57 AM · #13

How do you people feel about panning that shows a frozen BG or panning against a solid sky, such as a bird or plane?
These are panned shots that can show motion, but are not blurred. --Rick

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

06/12/2009 11:25:56 AM · #14

Originally posted by rrdjserv:

How do you people feel about panning that shows a frozen BG or panning against a solid sky, such as a bird or plane?
These are panned shots that can show motion, but are not blurred. --Rick

They will mercilessly be voted down. Fair or not that's gonna be the truth. I'm not saying don't enter it, but be forewarned if the score matters at all to you...

06/12/2009 12:23:51 PM · #15

Originally posted by rrdjserv:

How do you people feel about panning that shows a frozen BG or panning against a solid sky, such as a bird or plane?
These are panned shots that can show motion, but are not blurred. --Rick

Hmmmm...I guess I'm remarkably clueless (a normal state of mind for me)...but HOW would you SHOW motion panning with a solid BG. Wouldn't a solid background basically render the background as invisible? I would be very afraid to leave ANYTHING up to the voter's imagination...I confess...I'm afraid of those voter trolls.

I suppose you could show something in the foreground then that would show the panning motion...I have this one where the BG is a solid wall, but the sand in the foreground shows the motion...

I like your question...I have to think about these things.

rrdjserv

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

06/12/2009 02:57:41 PM · #16

For instance, panning a bird in flight would qualify as a panned shot. A solid blue BG would not show blur, but the bird's wings could show motion. And everyone knows that a bird doesn't hold still in mid air; it moves.

I've been slammed before and I will be slammed again. I will post my anonymous photo and hope for the best. Good thing these terrible scores don't keep me awake at night. :-) --Rick

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

06/12/2009 03:32:02 PM · #17

Originally posted by rrdjserv:

Yes, of course! I guess what I am asking you is how do propose to distinguish to your audience the difference between motion blur and panning without giving your viewer a point of reference within the composition? It's easy to show motion blur of a bird with no background and not pan the bird. How will your audience know the difference?

Good Luck, Rick...I look forward to your entry.

Message edited by author 2009-06-12 19:43:40.

Ecce_Signum

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

06/12/2009 04:27:41 PM · #18

Top ten with this last time out and sadly can't make it over to Santa Pod this weekend and my trip to the British Super Bikes will be a week too late but have an idea for this challenge and maybe an outing for the the 300/2.8

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

06/12/2009 05:23:05 PM · #19

I just did some for the challenge...not overly happy with them...will do another run this arvo.

06/16/2009 08:52:36 AM · #20

Originally posted by Judi:

I just did some for the challenge...not overly happy with them...will do another run this arvo.

Judi, please enter your very WORST photo. Then, at least the rest of us will have a shot at SECOND place...;-)

Well, I anticipate my entry will have a very low score...indirectly proportionate to the number of comments...haha!

Good Luck to you all!

Delta_6