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05/08/2004 06:16:40 AM · #1
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How'd They Do That
'It's my turn to torture you BIG sister!' by Neuferland

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05/08/2004 06:29:34 AM · #2
Before even seeing the tutorial, I kinda knew thats how you did that. Great idea.
05/08/2004 06:33:54 AM · #3
I guess the hard part was having the idea. It's not so hard to figure out how to do it once you've seen the picture ;) But the idea was great, and you did a wonderful job implementing it. You should've gotten a ribbon, if anybody had asked me ;)
05/08/2004 08:45:40 AM · #4
Well done! This effect looks easier than it is to implement. There simply is no substitute for the skill and imagination of the photographer!
05/08/2004 01:01:38 PM · #5
I would like to see a close up of the parking lot outtake. I find the angle to be very interesting.
05/23/2004 02:48:37 PM · #6
And there was me thinking you used big and small people :) simplicity is often the best way and, as has been said before, the complexity is in the idea - great job! and thanks for the tutorial.
05/23/2004 03:01:33 PM · #7
Thanks for the comments everyone! They are apprecited!

Deannda
Still suprised how well it did! ;)
07/30/2004 09:45:46 AM · #8
Hi,
just wondering. Can I produce the same result without using a bigger pace like a field or parking space? Is it possible to snap photos of the two girls. One girl holding her hand out as if holding something on her palm and another girl just stand still. Then using maybe photoshop or other software, shrink the image of the standing girl and place it on the palm of the other girl?

07/30/2004 10:23:48 AM · #9
Originally posted by sherrina:

Hi,
just wondering. Can I produce the same result without using a bigger pace like a field or parking space? Is it possible to snap photos of the two girls. One girl holding her hand out as if holding something on her palm and another girl just stand still. Then using maybe photoshop or other software, shrink the image of the standing girl and place it on the palm of the other girl?


You could, depending on how good you are with photoshop, will depend on how much you can tell the subject was "Cut out" of the background. Also that wouldn't be legal for any challenges here.
07/30/2004 10:35:58 AM · #10
Originally posted by sherrina:

Hi,
just wondering. Can I produce the same result without using a bigger pace like a field or parking space? Is it possible to snap photos of the two girls. One girl holding her hand out as if holding something on her palm and another girl just stand still. Then using maybe photoshop or other software, shrink the image of the standing girl and place it on the palm of the other girl?


You certainly could, but you couldn't enter it in any challenges then (multiple image sources not allowed).
07/30/2004 10:53:16 AM · #11
Originally posted by sherrina:

Hi,
just wondering. Can I produce the same result without using a bigger pace like a field or parking space? Is it possible to snap photos of the two girls. One girl holding her hand out as if holding something on her palm and another girl just stand still. Then using maybe photoshop or other software, shrink the image of the standing girl and place it on the palm of the other girl?


You could easily do this. If you decide to, it would be easier if you take the picture for the smaller girl against a solid background like a white sheet. I could talk you through the process in PSP but not PS.

07/30/2004 11:04:15 AM · #12
Originally posted by fayepek:

it would be easier if you take the picture for the smaller girl against a solid background like a white sheet.


I recommend a solid color sheet, rather than white. Bright red, blue, or green works best, and make sure none of her clothes/hair are near that color, or it will be harder to remove her from the image. With a large area of the contrasting color, you can magic wand, then inverse select and grab the person only.

This is the way they film the crazy videos of people "flying" over San Francisco, my friend wore a tie-dyed shirt with some bright green parts to the filming, and parts of her torso turned invisible!

Message edited by author 2004-07-30 15:07:12.
07/30/2004 11:48:46 AM · #13
Originally posted by airatic:

Originally posted by fayepek:

it would be easier if you take the picture for the smaller girl against a solid background like a white sheet.


I recommend a solid color sheet, rather than white. Bright red, blue, or green works best, and make sure none of her clothes/hair are near that color, or it will be harder to remove her from the image. With a large area of the contrasting color, you can magic wand, then inverse select and grab the person only.

This is the way they film the crazy videos of people "flying" over San Francisco, my friend wore a tie-dyed shirt with some bright green parts to the filming, and parts of her torso turned invisible!


Blue is best. Skin has a lot of red in it, so red is usually not a good choice. Makes the selection harder.
07/31/2004 05:25:21 AM · #14
no..no..it's not for the challenge. Just thought to try it using software for personal use. But how to resize/shrink images using PS?

Fayepek,
if you could kindly enough to explain the process using PSP (Paint Shop Pro, is it?), that would be so helpful. Thank all of you so much. I'm a newbie in photography and needs to learn a lot :)
07/31/2004 09:07:03 AM · #15
Originally posted by sherrina:

no..no..it's not for the challenge. Just thought to try it using software for personal use. But how to resize/shrink images using PS?

Fayepek,
if you could kindly enough to explain the process using PSP (Paint Shop Pro, is it?), that would be so helpful. Thank all of you so much. I'm a newbie in photography and needs to learn a lot :)


The easiest way in photosop is to make the selection, then check the 'Show Bounding Box' checkbox. Then you can just resize by dragging the edges of the box with the tabs.
07/31/2004 10:43:37 AM · #16
Originally posted by Konador:

Originally posted by sherrina:

no..no..it's not for the challenge. Just thought to try it using software for personal use. But how to resize/shrink images using PS?

Fayepek,
if you could kindly enough to explain the process using PSP (Paint Shop Pro, is it?), that would be so helpful. Thank all of you so much. I'm a newbie in photography and needs to learn a lot :)


The easiest way in photosop is to make the selection, then check the 'Show Bounding Box' checkbox. Then you can just resize by dragging the edges of the box with the tabs.


select that layer, press "ctrl T", drag the corner of the bounding box while holding down "shift" (to restrain the proportions).
:)
07/31/2004 10:44:19 AM · #17
Here is my feeble attempt. I was going to do something like this for the miniature challenge but since seeing so many people talk about it, I changed my mind. I want to try it again with my twin boys dressed the same so it looks like the person is holding himself! I also need to work on how to get both subjects into focus.. suggestions? I know this is not a great image, but it was very impromptu, we were walking home by this field and I said, "you stand here and you stand here with your arm out". They thought I was crazy, but they got a huge kick out of seeing the final outcome. Cheers :)


07/31/2004 10:50:32 AM · #18
To get both in focus, you need to set your aperture to as high an f number as possible. Also, try moving further away from them both, which will also help them both be in focus.
07/31/2004 02:38:44 PM · #19
great, thanks for the suggestion :)
08/01/2004 08:31:28 AM · #20
oops.. didn't mean to post yet

Message edited by author 2004-08-01 12:32:15.
08/01/2004 08:52:05 AM · #21
Originally posted by sherrina:

no..no..it's not for the challenge. Just thought to try it using software for personal use. But how to resize/shrink images using PS?

Fayepek,
if you could kindly enough to explain the process using PSP (Paint Shop Pro, is it?), that would be so helpful. Thank all of you so much. I'm a newbie in photography and needs to learn a lot :)


Hi Sherrina, this is the process I use to combine two photos in Paint Shop Pro7. Im sure there are many ways to get these results but this works for me.

Bear in mind that it is best not to save a file once you have started cleaning it, until it is finished.

This is a photo of my grandson that I like a lot but the background is bad. I want to put him in a different background.



First step is to remove the background from this photo. Using PaintShopPro7 these are the steps I take.

Open photo in PSP

In the color palette chose a bright color that isnt in the photo. Bright red, blue or green are best to use. In this case, I chose red.

Using a large (I used 30 pixels) paint brush, paint the background around the subject leaving a small area of background close to subject.



Next zoom in so you can work closely on each area.

Using a small brush (about 3 pixels) clean closer to the subject.



Finally, using a 1 pixel brush, clean pixel by pixel around the subject. This is slow, tedious work. Its best not to save your work at this point so its a good idea to duplicate the photo occasionally. If you do need to save your work save it in gif format because jpg format will blend the edges into the background and make it impossible to separate it cleanly from the background.

With time and patience, you will eventually end up with something like this



At this point it should be pretty clean but doesnt have to be perfect because you will adjust it when it is pasted into another photo.

I thought this would be a fun photo for the background picture:



These are the steps taken to transfer the cleaned photo to the new background.

With the cleaned photo opened in PSP7, go to Selections/Select all

Go to Selections/Modify/Transparent Color

Select the color you used to paint the background on the original photo

Where to set the tolerance is a guess first time through. For this photo I set it on 60.

Click OK.

Ideally the selections lines will be surrounding only the object. If not, you can undo the selection and repeat the steps with a different tolerance set. Keep trying until you get the selection lines snuggly surrounding the object.

Go to Edit/Copy

Open the photo you want to use for a background

Go to Edit/Paste. This pastes the cleaned subject on the background.

Position the photo where you want it then go to Selections/Select None

From this point you just make adjustments to blend the two photos. Any edges that seem sharp can be softened by cloning or picking up colors from the background and the added photo and blending them around the edges.

Here is my final photo:



If you have any questions PM me and I will give you my email address.

Note: Two of the thumbs are saved in gif format and didnt link.
08/01/2004 08:53:05 AM · #22
I think it's obvious how this shot was done - this technique is beloved in family travel albums everywhere - but it was still fun to see outtakes and set up shots for your image!

THANKS!
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