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04/07/2009 11:01:07 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by SteveJ:
It is a Cherry of some sort(Prunus), as to variety, can't tell from the picture. What colour are the flowers? Does the bark look like a Birch? If so it could be Prunus Serrula(Birch Bark Cherry) |
I wouldn't say the bark is as white as birch. The flowers are white. |
No, the Birch Bark Cherry is a coppery brown and peels off in flakes on the branches during Winter. Looking at the photo again, it looks very like the Birch Bark. One exercise you can do before moving the tree is to remove the lower branches coming from by the stock at the bottom. This will allow making the rootball smaller and lighter, it will also make the tree grow in a better shape. Most Flowering Cherries have a Standard shape, no low branches and a nicely shaped crown. |
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04/07/2009 11:04:26 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by SteveJ:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by SteveJ:
It is a Cherry of some sort(Prunus), as to variety, can't tell from the picture. What colour are the flowers? Does the bark look like a Birch? If so it could be Prunus Serrula(Birch Bark Cherry) |
I wouldn't say the bark is as white as birch. The flowers are white. |
No, the Birch Bark Cherry is a coppery brown and peels off in flakes on the branches during Winter. Looking at the photo again, it looks very like the Birch Bark. One exercise you can do before moving the tree is to remove the lower branches coming from by the stock at the bottom. This will allow making the rootball smaller and lighter, it will also make the tree grow in a better shape. Most Flowering Cherries have a Standard shape, no low branches and a nicely shaped crown. |
Ya, I thought about removing that lower branch. I may do it.
The bark, however, is not red at all and doesn't peel. |
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04/07/2009 11:08:05 AM · #28 |
| Okay, then it is one of a wide variety of Prunus, an example being Prunus Pink Perfection, a greyish bark with young flower buds Pink and turning white as they open and mature. |
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04/07/2009 08:20:08 PM · #29 |
Hey Steve, I took another look at the tree and it is a Birch Bark Cherry after all. You nailed it.
I took a lopper to it and cut the branch to the left and the one that is coming out at the camera. I left the middle left branch as I thought it shaped the upper boughs better (even though it leads to a double trunk). I'm ticked at myself because I cut the lopped branches in half before I thought about walking sticks. I managed to make a pair for my kids (which they love using) but there was no length left long enough for myself. :( |
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12/07/2009 08:38:42 AM · #30 |
Thought I'd provide a little update for those yard people out there. Yesterday I moved the Birch Bark Cherry tree. I'm hoping I preserved enough of the root structure, but you never know. I wound up digging a 18" deep trench at about a 4-6 foot diameter around the tree and then pulled the tree gently over with my Subaru. That loosened much of the root structure. After, I used the garden hose to basically clear dirt away and turn the encasing earth into mud. Then I worked as many of the smaller roots out of the soil by hand. Messy work. However, I now had a bare root tree which was light enough just to carry over to the new location. This was important as there is a wrought iron fence around my yard which would preclude any equipment being back there. I doubt I would have ever moved a root ball. I had dug a new hole and then filled it with soil while pouring water into the mixture. This causes all the air pockets to be displaced and when the water drains you are left with a really snug tree. The tethering is really just a precaution. Today the ground is frozen as well which means there's no budging that thing. One arborist at my church said bare root transplanting is so old school it's new school.
I guess we'll just have to see how it recovers in the spring. You think you get a lot of roots, but really you probably have only 5-10% of the whole thing as the majority is tiny tendrils which get ripped out. Crossing my fingers!
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12/07/2009 10:03:30 AM · #31 |
| I hope you didn't void the warranty in Subaru ;-) |
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12/07/2009 10:16:24 AM · #32 |
| At least in a couple of years when you need to move it away from that fence you'll have experience :-) |
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12/07/2009 10:18:04 AM · #33 |
| Don't lose faith if it doesn't bud in the spring. Leave it at least a year to get back to normal. |
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12/07/2009 10:22:25 AM · #34 |
Birch Bark Cherry don't grow very quickly and in ten years will only attain a height of 3-4 metres and a similar spread. After that the trunk will thicken slowly but I doubt if the fence will be of any concern for a long time.
As to the lower branch, I still think that needs lopping, it unbalances the tree and from the photo looks like it is growing from the root stock rather than the grafted trunk/stem. |
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12/07/2009 10:48:24 AM · #35 |
| Try using the new version of photoshop to move the tree, but make sure you select all the branches and any remaining leaves carefully. If you miss anything, it'll end up falling to the ground and you'll have to rake it all up. |
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12/07/2009 10:58:31 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by jrtodd:
At least in a couple of years when you need to move it away from that fence you'll have experience :-) |
Don't worry the tree can take out the fence if it gets in the way but the neighbor may get annoyed when it starts tapping on the back window at night..... |
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