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06/22/2002 05:36:46 AM · #1 |
Hi, I'm new to the site and just entered a photo snapped this morning into the current challenge. The problem is that my camera (Largan Lmini 350) does not seem to store any EXIF info.
I downloaded and used Thumber to try and retrieve this info, but each entry in the report was blank.
I know that this info is helpful to others who are learning photography, but is it really necessary to include it with a submission to the contest. I entered "unknown" for each entry as there is no way for me to tell what they really were when the photo was taken.
I know that a lot of people here may be interested in the newest cameras with all of the bells and whistles, but there are a few people like myself who simply buy inexpensive cameras to take photos and have fun. In fact, the first camera I bought was one of those cheap kid's Yahoo! ones they sell at Target & K-Mart. I realize that the cheaper the camera, the less quality you will get for photos, but does that mean that they cannot enter the contest?
Just curious about how important knowing the settings really is to submit,
Mike K |
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06/22/2002 05:44:17 AM · #2 |
Mike, welcome to the site! You are not the first to have a camera that doesn't store any of the exif data, so I'm sure your entry will still be fine. Good luck with the challenge!
Originally posted by MikeKrueger:
Hi, I'm new to the site and just entered a photo snapped this morning into the current challenge. The problem is that my camera (Largan Lmini 350) does not seem to store any EXIF info.
I downloaded and used Thumber to try and retrieve this info, but each entry in the report was blank.
I know that this info is helpful to others who are learning photography, but is it really necessary to include it with a submission to the contest. I entered "unknown" for each entry as there is no way for me to tell what they really were when the photo was taken.
I know that a lot of people here may be interested in the newest cameras with all of the bells and whistles, but there are a few people like myself who simply buy inexpensive cameras to take photos and have fun. In fact, the first camera I bought was one of those cheap kid's Yahoo! ones they sell at Target & K-Mart. I realize that the cheaper the camera, the less quality you will get for photos, but does that mean that they cannot enter the contest?
Just curious about how important knowing the settings really is to submit,
Mike K
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06/22/2002 05:44:49 AM · #3 |
The main reason to have that information is if the validity of your photo comes into question.
Things like being able to verify that the photo was taken during the time allotted for the challenge or that the photo was as is with no illegal edits or that the photo is yours and not a ripoff of someone else.
It's mainly there to protect you..to help you defend your photo just in case. There are probably lots of folks who enter every week that could not provide that information if needed so don't worry about it. :-)
Just take pictures!!! |
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06/22/2002 09:20:05 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by hokie:
The main reason to have that information is if the validity of your photo comes into question.
I wondered why this would even be bothered with, as far as I know the EXIF data is just additional data in the jpeg file header which can be easily altered to whatever you'd like it to say with a hex editor or any number of exif data editors. The exif data is included as useful data not as a method of verification, is it not?
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06/23/2002 05:01:53 AM · #5 |
Actually, I had a concern about this as well. I've begun shooting all my images in the RAW format on my G2, then converting to TIFF, then to jpeg. Maybe I need to play with the conversion settings, but I seem to loose most of the EXIF data when I convert to TIFF. As I delete the RAW images after conversion, I have no EXIF data for this weeks entry. I had to try to remember what my settings were when I submitted my photo.
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06/23/2002 08:20:58 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by bdshort:
...I've begun shooting all my images in the RAW format on my G2, then converting to TIFF, then to jpeg. Maybe I need to play with the conversion settings, but I seem to loose most of the EXIF data when I convert to TIFF.
Brian
Brian, TIFF doesnt support EXIF data. EXIF is a JPG thing. |
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06/23/2002 08:29:20 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by bdshort:
Actually, I had a concern about this as well. I've begun shooting all my images in the RAW format on my G2, then converting to TIFF, then to jpeg. Maybe I need to play with the conversion settings, but I seem to loose most of the EXIF data when I convert to TIFF. As I delete the RAW images after conversion, I have no EXIF data for this weeks entry. I had to try to remember what my settings were when I submitted my photo.
Brian
I consider the .CRW file to be the true negative and always keep it. I process a set of lower quality .jpg files for easily visible thumbnails, then when I want to get serious I process a 16 bit .tif. Oh, and by the way, Photoshop 7 saves EXIF data both on .jpg and .tif files. |
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06/23/2002 08:30:11 PM · #8 |
Brian, TIFF doesnt support EXIF data. EXIF is a JPG thing.
not arguing 'cause i don't know for sure about the jpeg thing, but i can read the EXIF data in my .RAW files and my TIFF files in photoshop 7. where it gets lost for me is when i convert to JPEG for the final image.
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06/23/2002 08:40:28 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by amitchell:
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Brian, TIFF doesnt support EXIF data. EXIF is a JPG thing.
not arguing 'cause i don't know for sure about the jpeg thing, but i can read the EXIF data in my .RAW files and my TIFF files in photoshop 7. where it gets lost for me is when i convert to JPEG for the final image.
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I think if you use the "SaveForWeb" command you will lose the data, but if you do a straight "SaveAs" from your TIFF to a JPEG it should retain the data. It just returns to the days of guessing a compession level to achieve a small enough file. |
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06/23/2002 08:43:16 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
I think if you use the "SaveForWeb" command you will lose the data, but if you do a straight "SaveAs" from your TIFF to a JPEG it should retain the data. It just returns to the days of guessing a compession level to achieve a small enough file.
hehe! so true. i guess i just would rather save my brain by using the easy save for web feature and just refer back to the original for the info.
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