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 03/11/2004 06:26:14 AM · #26
Originally posted by beclo:
Originally posted by gpierson:


Do you guys/gals think completely off topic shots should recieve ones??


Always. It is far too easy to score ok with a 'nice' completely off topic photo. Surely a bad on topic photo deserves to finish higher? At least they have put effort into taking a photo based around the challenge. There are at least 10 photos that deserve a 1 in the off screen challenge


People with 3.4 voting average should skip voting alltogether because they are "the best" and the rest of us are off topic!
 03/11/2004 06:51:55 AM · #27
Originally posted by gpierson:


People with 3.4 voting average should skip voting alltogether because they are "the best" and the rest of us are off topic!


Agree. I try to keep my voting average around 5, i don't really understand those who have an average of below 3.5 or above 6.5 (although I don't mind so much about those!)
 03/11/2004 07:01:50 AM · #28
Originally posted by pitsaman:
Originally posted by beclo:
[quote=gpierson]

Do you guys/gals think completely off topic shots should recieve ones??


People with 3.4 voting average should skip voting alltogether because they are "the best" and the rest of us are off topic!


hey pitsman...love you!
 03/11/2004 09:53:50 AM · #29
I feel completely off topic shots should receive ones because the first objective of the challenge is to shoot something that IS on a particular topic. If the image isn't remotely connnected to the challenge, it deserves the lowest rating, regardless of how good an image it may be. Of course, it's not always clear whether an image is off topic, so I try to give some leeway for that. But if the challenge is Blue, and the picture is all about a yellow banana (for example), I'd give it a one, no matter how compelling that banana was. If we don't mark 'em down for not meeting the challenge, then why not just enter any old picture that is well done technically? What's the point of the challenge? So yes, if it's a bogus picture that clearly doesn't meet the challenge, it's a one.
03/11/2004 10:20:27 AM · #30
I think a lot of people raise a good point about the challenge descriptions. Sometimes it's hard to interpret. I like to read some of the posts before I submit, just in case I didn't understand something. I find sometimes people will say your pic doesn't fit a challenge when it actually does - it's just that they are reading the description and they have their own interpretation. I don't know how this could be rectified - since it's hard to ask people to be creative but ask them to be very specific at the same time. Oh well. I guess that's the nature of DPChallenge.
 03/11/2004 10:56:22 AM · #31
Originally posted by gpierson:
Originally posted by pitsaman:
Originally posted by beclo:
[quote=gpierson]

Do you guys/gals think completely off topic shots should recieve ones??


People with 3.4 voting average should skip voting alltogether because they are "the best" and the rest of us are off topic!


hey pitsman...love you!

Actually,I see lot of talent in you and looking forward to see your work getting better! :-)
 03/11/2004 11:00:03 AM · #32
If it matters, lol, I found it took more thought to make the connection between photo and challenge this time around. I've only voted on roughly half so far, but out of those there was only 1 that I didn't get what the photographer intended.
 03/11/2004 11:02:25 AM · #33
Trite. My comment had been said already so I erased it.

Message edited by author 2004-03-11 16:52:58.
 03/11/2004 12:05:43 PM · #34
Pitsaman-I knew you had a soft side! Thankx.


Message edited by author 2004-03-11 17:06:30.
 03/11/2004 12:58:04 PM · #35
Completely agree with beclo. Surely a photograph attemting to meet the challenge requirements but falling short on technicality should score MUCH higher than a technically excellent shot way off topic. Otherwise we could just post what we fancied and the whole topic thing would be redundant!

Score the "way off topic" posts really low to discourage them.

I'm new here but I thought this was the idea, no?

TB

03/11/2004 01:32:07 PM · #36
My first challenge I got a 3.8 or something. And I guess I was bitter and started using the low end of the scale much more than the high end.

I've since then gone more towards the middle, although, I seem to notice lots of out of focus pictures, and to me, if you can't focus, you get a one, intentional or not. And if I can't find a correlation between the topic, and you're picture, you get a one for that too. Or if it's just really bad, you get a one.

Lately I've been giving out mostly fives, which I think is too generous since I never seem to get above five. Maybe I'm still bitter.

Anyway. Yeah.

As for this topic, my photo started at a 5.1, then went up to a 5.7, and almost to a 5.8 where it stayed for a while, then all the sudden I'm down to a 5.3 I've never seen anything that drastic before.

03/11/2004 01:34:10 PM · #37
What one person thinks is "way off target" is another person's "spot on" in quite a few cases. I like to give the photographer the benefit of the doubt because most try very hard to meet the challenge. It would seem to be helpful to take the time to see what the image means to the maker.
 03/11/2004 03:02:23 PM · #38
please read the next message.

Message edited by author 2004-03-11 20:06:19.
 03/11/2004 03:04:13 PM · #39
For vague Photo challenge descriptions, I always try to look at the picture from the "author's" point-of-view. Interpretation is always subjective. Some imaginative people have the most "weird" yet metaphorical and novel interpretation.

For me, all pictures (well, almost all) are off-screen expectation pictures. The photographer's camera elicit a mix of expectations to the subject (I am gonna look good? what is that blinking light for? What is he gonna do with my picture?). Well, that's how I see it.

There are those that are really very literal, and I score them really high if they are technically well-shot, but others who are not quite literal in their interpretation deserve a second, deeper look. Again, my opinion is probably just my own.

My entry's score goes up and down like a see-saw. I really thought I have an on-the-topic entry but most others don't think the way I do. Well, I probably am just rationalizing (as a defense mechanism).

Anyway, I am happy with my picture and that's the bottomline.
 03/11/2004 09:46:38 PM · #40
Originally posted by librodo:
For vague Photo challenge descriptions, I always try to look at the picture from the "author's" point-of-view. Interpretation is always subjective. Some imaginative people have the most "weird" yet metaphorical and novel interpretation.

For me, all pictures (well, almost all) are off-screen expectation pictures. The photographer's camera elicit a mix of expectations to the subject (I am gonna look good? what is that blinking light for? What is he gonna do with my picture?). Well, that's how I see it.

There are those that are really very literal, and I score them really high if they are technically well-shot, but others who are not quite literal in their interpretation deserve a second, deeper look. Again, my opinion is probably just my own.

My entry's score goes up and down like a see-saw. I really thought I have an on-the-topic entry but most others don't think the way I do. Well, I probably am just rationalizing (as a defense mechanism).

Anyway, I am happy with my picture and that's the bottomline.


It's my first entry and my score keeps going up and down every hour...I'm getting quite anxious for this week to end already ;)

Oh well I suppose then if at least a first-timer gets a 5.+ something it's a good thing? So far the comments I've gotten have been entirely contradictory, however...wish people would leave a little more detail on things they would improve -- especially the ones who are obviously giving me such low scores that the zig zag effect should happen.
 03/12/2004 03:28:24 AM · #41
Originally posted by librodo:
For vague Photo challenge descriptions, I always try to look at the picture from the "author's" point-of-view. Interpretation is always subjective. Some imaginative people have the most "weird" yet metaphorical and novel interpretation.

Anyway, I am happy with my picture and that's the bottomline.


Thant's how I am trying to think as well. I'm at 4.06 at the moment which i was a bit miffed at but I like my pic and had fun capturing it, so that's what counts I suppose.

But I agree that off topic technically excellent shots should score lower than on topic, not so good technically chots.
 03/12/2004 06:13:27 AM · #42
I tend to firstly judge the Photo. Normally I think "Would I hang that on my wall?" next I subtract one or two points if the photo doesn't meet the challenge (In my opinion). I would never give a good photo a 1, as nothing detracts from the fact that it is a good photo. On the other hand I wouldn't give it a score over 6 if it is off topic.
This challenge I found to be a challenge ;-) I normally try to think of the obvious topics, & try to take a photo that is different. For example I definitley didn't want a picture of [Removed as it is unfair to those who have made those pictures] as this would probably be copied 100 times, so It was fun trying to think of something different. I find this to be 3/4 of the challenge.
Unfortunately a lot of these ideas are then not possible to implemt. E.g. For off screen expectations I thought footsteps in wet sand across the photo with only the foot at the top or on the edge of the picture mught be nice, But outside is snow & fog, so a little challenging to implement.

Message edited by author 2004-03-12 11:51:20.
 03/12/2004 12:45:03 PM · #43
My first challenge I got a 3.8 or something. And I guess I was bitter and started using the low end of the scale much more than the high end.

I've since then gone more towards the middle, although, I seem to notice lots of out of focus pictures, and to me, if you can't focus, you get a one, intentional or not. And if I can't find a correlation between the topic, and you're picture, you get a one for that too. Or if it's just really bad, you get a one.

Lately I've been giving out mostly fives, which I think is too generous since I never seem to get above five. Maybe I'm still bitter.

Anyway. Yeah.

As for this topic, my photo started at a 5.1, then went up to a 5.7, and almost to a 5.8 where it stayed for a while, then all the sudden I'm down to a 5.3 I've never seen anything that drastic before.



What does what you "give" have to do with the scores you "receive?" If everyone voted like that a lot of photographers would be in trouble because there are more people on here with lower scores than higher ones.
 03/12/2004 02:09:07 PM · #44
What does what you "give" have to do with the scores you "receive?" If everyone voted like that a lot of photographers would be in trouble because there are more people on here with lower scores than higher ones.
sonnyh-your so right.

Geezz, I hope others don't do this~ really they don't have a thing to do with each other. You won't help your score by voting others lower.
Please look at each shot individually. Try to be fair in your voting and time you give each shot.
 03/12/2004 02:36:13 PM · #45
You guys should read what I wrote its entirety.

I said after the first challenge that's how I did, because I set my marks based on how I felt about my picture compared to everyone elses.

BUT THEN I ALSO SAID THAT I DON'T DO IT ANYMORE.
 03/12/2004 03:50:21 PM · #46
Originally posted by movieman:
You guys should read what I wrote its entirety.

I said after the first challenge that's how I did, because I set my marks based on how I felt about my picture compared to everyone elses.

BUT THEN I ALSO SAID THAT I DON'T DO IT ANYMORE.

____
Awwha, Movieman :)
I read all that you wrote. Don't take offense nothing harmful was meant toward you. Was just responding to your statement. YIKES it would be a disaster if every one did do just that.
03/12/2004 04:41:40 PM · #47
I don't usually come looking for "the" thread on "these pics sucked" or "what a great challenge" but in this case - I specifically wanted to find a thread about the off screen expectation because imho those were the WORST group of pictures DPC has produced in a long time.

Did a really grainy shot win recently? I am wondering why the amazing amount of iso 1600 shots that you can barely make out the subject? Or when you read the description did not 100 people think everyone would pose their friends to "look that way - and look surprised!" zzzzzz

I didn't submit to this challenge, and wouldn't if it was open for a month - what were we supposed to learn? These kind of shots ...I don't get what I didn't learn.

M
 03/12/2004 05:14:05 PM · #48
to expand on Pitsman's blah blah blah. I would love to add:

burp.

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