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02/28/2008 05:02:17 AM · #1 |
i have a D80 and a SB600 flash, i want to go extendable... cord or wireless.. preferably wireless but will go with cheapest now.. but i still need help with what to get or what works. and prices i should pay for both.. i went to ritz they said 80 bucks for a cable?
can anyone help me figure out what im supposed to buy? would an SC-17 nikon cable work for what i need?
thanks!
and one more little thing.. anyone know where to get cheap backdrops.. im a college student.. im poor lol |
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02/28/2008 05:05:03 AM · #2 |
are you just wanting to reach a flash bracket?
because your camera and flash already have wireless built in. i've not encountered very many situations where i needed a cord or radio wireless, but your milage may vary
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02/28/2008 05:07:39 AM · #3 |
it has it built in?! how do i do that?
ill feel silly if it really is haha |
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02/28/2008 05:17:28 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by WeatherGurl:
it has it built in?! how do i do that?
ill feel silly if it really is haha |
eh... there are worse things to be than silly...
don't have time to write it up right now, but i bet if you search the forums or google for "d80 wireless flash" you'll find detailed instructions
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02/28/2008 05:26:47 AM · #5 |
| For the D80, grab the manual and look up Commander Mode. This allows your camera to control the flash. |
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02/28/2008 05:32:20 AM · #6 |
Try
//www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d80/users-guide/menus-custom.htm
Item 22.
See also
//www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/ittlslave.htm#d70
That one is for the D70, but it should be the same.
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02/28/2008 05:37:19 AM · #7 |
i ADORE commander mode.
however, my husband and i have joked about that term so much that i'm terrified that one day i will slip and call it "Commando" Mode in front of another photographer.
:o)
it's an incredibly helpful tool and the flash seems to respond even in situations where i would have sworn that the flash sensor wasn't able to reach the on-camera sensor. somehow it always works.
my flash eats batteries, but it works really well.
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02/28/2008 05:41:59 AM · #8 |
thank you everyone for your help.. i cant believe i went to 2 different photography stores yesterday asking them how to do extendable flashes with my D80 and no one told me this.
I love DPChallenge.. im just going to come here first from now on!
thank you thank you thank you!
my first paid shoot is tomorrow! high school graduation with 2 other photographers :) wish me luck! |
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02/28/2008 05:45:02 AM · #9 |
| Commander mode on the D300 is Quite different than on the D70. I suspect the D80 commander mode may be more like the D300, allowing actual channel selects and presets from right in the camera. ( Big Yay for this feature btw, now I have the ability to commander two groups all off camera while not using one of my three flashes for control!!! ) |
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02/28/2008 06:45:56 AM · #10 |
What everyone has talked about so far is Nikon's CLS mode.
Just in case you decide to investigate corded flash any further, there are a number of options. However, be warned that some maintain TTL ability, and some do not. I have the SC-29, which let's me use TTL off-camera. I think the SC-28 and SC-17 do not.
As a college student, CLS is nice because it's free. Unfortunately, it is not always predictable, needs line-of-sight, and can't travel too far. Each technology has its place.
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02/28/2008 07:28:45 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by geoffb:
What everyone has talked about so far is Nikon's CLS mode.
Just in case you decide to investigate corded flash any further, there are a number of options. However, be warned that some maintain TTL ability, and some do not. I have the SC-29, which let's me use TTL off-camera. I think the SC-28 and SC-17 do not. |
Buzzzzzzz.
That is incorrect. The correct answer is D) All of the above work in TTL mode.
I use an SC-28 combined with an SC-27 to use an SB-600 and an SB-28 off camera in TTL. My complaint is that 10' SC-27 isn't long enough between the two flashes and the springy 5' SC-28 tends to pull the umbrella stand over. I'm debating choping the cords and turning them into HH-adapters or something similar. |
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02/28/2008 07:38:20 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Arcanist:
Commander mode on the D300 is Quite different than on the D70. I suspect the D80 commander mode may be more like the D300, allowing actual channel selects and presets from right in the camera. ( Big Yay for this feature btw, now I have the ability to commander two groups all off camera while not using one of my three flashes for control!!! ) |
one of the reasons i keep beggin my wife for the d300...
and WeatherGurl, there are 3 possible reasons they didn't tell you about nikon's cls (creative lighting system):
a) they don't know the equipment they sell
b) they just want to sell you something, even if you don't need it
c) all of the above
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02/28/2008 08:02:47 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by kudzu:
and WeatherGurl, there are 3 possible reasons they didn't tell you about nikon's cls (creative lighting system):
a) they don't know the equipment they sell
b) they just want to sell you something, even if you don't need it
c) all of the above |
so ive realized lol
Im very relieved in finding this out about my camera.. like i said before i feel silly, i should have known, but very glad i dont have to buy an 80 dollar cable that i dont need |
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02/28/2008 08:07:40 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by WeatherGurl:
Im very relieved in finding this out about my camera.. like i said before i feel silly, i should have known, but very glad i dont have to buy an 80 dollar cable that i dont need |
yeah. just go ahead and save that $80 up for another sb-600 and then see how much fun you can have with cls...
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02/28/2008 08:17:25 AM · #15 |
| I've done this with my D80 and SB600 and it works very well. The one thing to be aware of is that you should manually set the power setting for the onboard flash. I typically set mine to the lowest possible setting (basically off) so that I have just the off-camera flash contributing. But in your situation, you may want some fill light from the onboard flash. It's definitely worth playing with before hand so that you are comfortable witht he settings. |
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02/28/2008 09:10:04 AM · #16 |
What do you mean by "go extendable", what distance from the camera?
The SC-17 is like a coiled phone cord, it basically extends all the iTTL functions as if the flash was mounted on top of hte camera.
That's great for shooting in a more automated mode. I hold the flash in my left-hand stretched out as far as I can, imitating the position of a 10-AM or 2-PM sunshine.
That helps eliminate some shadows on close backgrounds, eliminates the red-eye, makes a portrait more 3-D. Sometimes I bounce it of cielengs, using angles like in billiards, or mount a Lumispere reflector if there isn't a close cieling.
I think the SB-600 has infrared control on it like the SB-800, which works great in wireless mode, the flash on the top of the camera can trigger your remote SB-600 on a stand or held by someone.
The only drawback doing it that way is the limited angles/location of the SB-800 and on-camera flash have to be in line-of-sight of each other.
Think of it as a remote on a TV-set. The more expensive wireless are more like cell-phones, and can be 100 feet away or around corners.
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02/28/2008 10:48:09 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by _eug:
Originally posted by geoffb:
What everyone has talked about so far is Nikon's CLS mode.
Just in case you decide to investigate corded flash any further, there are a number of options. However, be warned that some maintain TTL ability, and some do not. I have the SC-29, which let's me use TTL off-camera. I think the SC-28 and SC-17 do not. |
Buzzzzzzz.
That is incorrect. The correct answer is D) All of the above work in TTL mode. |
Yeah...umm...okay.
To the OP, I was mistaken. What the SC-29 has that the SC-28 doesn't is an AF illuminator. |
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