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08/31/2007 08:56:15 AM · #1
Casio's 60 fps stills camera and 300 fps video camera...move aside Canon 1D III and Nikon D3!
08/31/2007 09:06:57 AM · #2
Assuming a 50,000 click shutter life you could smoke this camera in just under 14 minutes heheh.
08/31/2007 09:15:37 AM · #3
Movie samples here! I WANT one!!!

Photo smaples here.



Message edited by author 2007-08-31 13:16:41.
08/31/2007 09:17:49 AM · #4
Check out pics of the framerate. Nice!

edit: late as usual :-/

Message edited by author 2007-08-31 13:18:28.
08/31/2007 09:23:03 AM · #5
for something like that I'd prefer a Red camera ;)

-dave
08/31/2007 10:51:18 AM · #6
I don't know much about video cameras these days, but if this is also performs as well as one then it will be at the top of my list for Santa.

Can anybody knowledgeable on video cameras comment as to how they expect this to compare?

edit to add - - - The video samples look fantastic. I wonder how they will look played full screen on the computer monitor and/or the TV.

Message edited by author 2007-08-31 14:56:51.
08/31/2007 10:59:26 AM · #7
I assume they skip using a mechanical shutter and just take images from the sensor via electronics (I think one of the older Canons can do something similar). Catch is writing to the card :-)
08/31/2007 11:10:34 AM · #8
Isn't 30 fps standard for video? Only reason I could see a need for 300 fps is slow motion video, like those clips you see on Discovery Channel of sharks leaping for seals or crocs trying to snag a wildebeest.
08/31/2007 11:16:47 AM · #9
That's pretty sweet. It's moving a lot of data to do the 6Mpixels at 60fps still capture. I wonder what the sustained burst is...

It would have to be an electronic shutter and viewfinder for that frame rate I'd think. Moving the mirror and shutter in an SLR is the main limiter to speed for them.
08/31/2007 11:17:42 AM · #10
Originally posted by yakatme:

I don't know much about video cameras these days, but if this is also performs as well as one then it will be at the top of my list for Santa.

Can anybody knowledgeable on video cameras comment as to how they expect this to compare?

edit to add - - - The video samples look fantastic. I wonder how they will look played full screen on the computer monitor and/or the TV.


The video is 640x480 though, it isn't going to look too good full screen on a monitor or HD-TV. Would look okay on an SDTV though. The bubble popping is awesome!

Message edited by author 2007-08-31 15:18:54.
08/31/2007 11:20:16 AM · #11
The Canon S3 shoots video at 60fps, but only in a half-size (320x240) frame.
08/31/2007 11:22:32 AM · #12
Originally posted by GeneralE:

The Canon S3 shoots video at 60fps, but only in a half-size (320x240) frame.


20x faster is quite a jump then...

Message edited by author 2007-08-31 15:22:50.
08/31/2007 11:24:17 AM · #13
It should be fun for super slo-mo effects, as a sporting events.

Has anyone mentioned what this thingy costs?
08/31/2007 11:27:49 AM · #14
Originally posted by GeneralE:

It should be fun for super slo-mo effects, as a sporting events.

Has anyone mentioned what this thingy costs?


The rest of the specs place it pretty firmly in the consumer level fixed lens price range.
08/31/2007 11:30:19 AM · #15
Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

The Canon S3 shoots video at 60fps, but only in a half-size (320x240) frame.

20x faster is quite a jump then...

Don't you mean 5x faster? (300 fps/60 fps = 5)
08/31/2007 11:34:58 AM · #16
Originally posted by _eug:

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

The Canon S3 shoots video at 60fps, but only in a half-size (320x240) frame.

20x faster is quite a jump then...

Don't you mean 5x faster? (300 fps/60 fps = 5)


4x the resolution as well though. It's moving/ processing/ storing data 20x faster. I have a bitrate bias because I'm working on video chips just now :)

Message edited by author 2007-08-31 15:36:29.
08/31/2007 11:36:24 AM · #17

Alien Technology!
08/31/2007 11:36:55 AM · #18
Originally posted by focuspoint:


Alien Technology!


Japanese at least
08/31/2007 11:50:50 AM · #19
The video is cool, yes. But it also makes it a LOT easier to get just the right timing on a still shot: a tennis ball hitting the racket, baseball hitting the bat, or your kid diving into the pool with just her fingertips wet.

This is truly revolutionary. My S2 IS got great video at 30 fps, but at 640x480. This is full-size 6MP photos at 60 fps.
08/31/2007 12:02:23 PM · #20
Originally posted by levyj413:

This is truly revolutionary. My S2 IS got great video at 30 fps, but at 640x480. This is full-size 6MP photos at 60 fps.


This camera brought to you by sponsorship from SanDisk and Lexar. 1Gb per second in RAW mode :)
08/31/2007 12:08:13 PM · #21
Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by levyj413:

This is truly revolutionary. My S2 IS got great video at 30 fps, but at 640x480. This is full-size 6MP photos at 60 fps.


This camera brought to you by sponsorship from SanDisk and Lexar. 1Gb per second in RAW mode :)

Yep. The camera will be $400. The 128GB cards will be $1000 each. ;)
08/31/2007 12:22:00 PM · #22
Originally posted by Gordon:

That's pretty sweet. It's moving a lot of data to do the 6Mpixels at 60fps still capture. I wonder what the sustained burst is...

It would have to be an electronic shutter and viewfinder for that frame rate I'd think. Moving the mirror and shutter in an SLR is the main limiter to speed for them.


check out the PRE-SHOT BURST page...
Originally posted by page:

The high-speed Past Continuous shooting of CASIO's next-generation digital camera uses an image buffer that is constantly refreshed with images of the action that occurs in front of the camera's lens. Then when you press the shutter button, the images in the image buffer are recorded, ensuring that you never miss any of those special moments because you pressed the shutter button too late.


There was recently another device that did this, it consistanly records a certain amount of data and when you press the record button (shutter here) it retains the last 30 seconds of data. It sounds like only one shutter is clicked.

Message edited by author 2007-08-31 16:23:07.
08/31/2007 01:41:23 PM · #23
My casio S600 does this for video (5 sec past movie). Press the button, and your video starts recording 5 sec earlier. Very cool for those waiting-something-to-happen-moments. But if you can do it for stills as well.... wow.

That really is innovation. That's what people want. I hope Canon and Nikon are listening....

We don't want evolution, we want revolution!

(and please take my D50 in part exchange when I upgrade :-)

Message edited by author 2007-08-31 17:41:49.
08/31/2007 03:49:06 PM · #24
That's funny because I think I read somewhere that the human eye cannot discern anything above 24fps.
08/31/2007 03:57:34 PM · #25
Originally posted by delta_viking:

That's funny because I think I read somewhere that the human eye cannot discern anything above 24fps.

Hence my comment above about standard video being 30 fps. I read the piece after writing that and it mentions it being used for slow motion replay. Basically means what happens in 1 second can be replayed at 1/10 speed taking 10 seconds to play out.
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