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05/30/2007 07:27:12 AM · #1 |
| Without religion there wouldn't be any holy places you nits. That is all. |
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05/30/2007 07:30:13 AM · #2 |
| You're preaching to the choir, and you probably don't have a prayer of converting anyone. ;-) |
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05/30/2007 07:50:44 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
You're preaching to the choir, and you probably don't have a prayer of converting anyone. ;-) |
Certainly not you. Heathen :P
:) |
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05/30/2007 07:55:17 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
Without religion there wouldn't be any holy places you nits. That is all. |
Not true...caveman had hole...y...places, its where they dug a hole and took a poo....
:) |
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05/30/2007 07:56:37 AM · #5 |
That's MISTER Heathen to you! 
Message edited by author 2007-05-30 11:58:00. |
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05/30/2007 08:28:15 AM · #6 |
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no?
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05/30/2007 08:36:57 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
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05/30/2007 08:39:53 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
I agree. |
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05/30/2007 08:49:02 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
I agree. |
Yes, of course. But what are the standards by which we measure a DNMC? Also, voing low is not the only recourse. One could very well choose not to vote on the image.
Message edited by author 2007-05-30 12:49:51.
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05/30/2007 08:49:03 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
However, I'm finding more and more people seem to be extremely narrow-minded -- or sometimes ignorant -- in their view of what constitutes "meeting the challenge topic," and excessively punitive in their response.
I wish we had more post-challenge discussion about pictures, especially of those over which there's a controversy. See this thread for an example. |
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05/30/2007 08:50:37 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
I agree. |
But being overly narrow minded doesn't mean that the other was really DNMC.
If I took a rubber ducky picture or something completely off-base, then that would be DNMC. It's your vote, but I still disagree with that line of thinking, so be it.
If It was a holy places challenge, and I'd taken a picture of a religious artifact or representation, that might be DNMC, because Holy Places does not encompass all of religion. All of religion, however, does encompass the holy places that they inspire. See? |
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05/30/2007 09:07:23 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
I agree. |
But being overly narrow minded doesn't mean that the other was really DNMC.
If I took a rubber ducky picture or something completely off-base, then that would be DNMC. It's your vote, but I still disagree with that line of thinking, so be it.
If It was a holy places challenge, and I'd taken a picture of a religious artifact or representation, that might be DNMC, because Holy Places does not encompass all of religion. All of religion, however, does encompass the holy places that they inspire. See? |
Religion Details: What do you believe in?
sorry,perhaps my english is very bad but in a week I think that I can translate with a good approximation 5 words. what do you believe in? a car? a building? It's true that a church can inspire religious sentiment but don't meet the description of the challenge. in fact one simple shot of one church don't descrive a sentiment or a sensation. |
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05/30/2007 09:13:10 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
I agree. |
But being overly narrow minded doesn't mean that the other was really DNMC.
If I took a rubber ducky picture or something completely off-base, then that would be DNMC. It's your vote, but I still disagree with that line of thinking, so be it.
If It was a holy places challenge, and I'd taken a picture of a religious artifact or representation, that might be DNMC, because Holy Places does not encompass all of religion. All of religion, however, does encompass the holy places that they inspire. See? |
Religion Details: What do you believe in?
sorry,perhaps my english is very bad but in a week I think that I can translate with a good approximation 5 words. what do you believe in? a car? a building? It's true that a church can inspire religious sentiment but don't meet the description of the challenge. in fact one simple shot of one church don't descrive a sentiment or a sensation. |
Ah yes, but I believe that religion is more about the place, the traditions, practices, and all that crap. That's actually the technical definition of it.
What you described for me is faith, which is to me DNMC, because Faith encompases religion because it inspired it, while religion does not necessarily encompass faith.
Do you get me now? |
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05/30/2007 09:13:51 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Rooster:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
I agree. |
Yes, of course. But what are the standards by which we measure a DNMC? Also, voing low is not the only recourse. One could very well choose not to vote on the image. |
AMEN!! That's exactly what I do. If I don't understand how it fits the challenge and its a really great photo then I might give it a score anyway but if its a so so or crappy photo AND doesn't meet the challenge IN MY OPINION. Then I just don't vote on it. Just because I don't get it doesn't mean its DNMC. This is about art and if someone elses art doesn't match my view of the world so be it. Who am I to say they are wrong. Now if I see something technically wrong with it then I say so. BUT.... I don't just say the technicals are bad, I tell them what I see that doesn't look good to me and give a recomendation on how I would do it differently. Maybe what they did was intentional. Maybe they added noise to give it an old photo look or maybe they wanted it center cropped.... whatever. But those voters out there who give a 1 or 2 and say simply... DNMC are just wrong. They need to open their narrow blinders and get a better view of the world.
Okay I'm done venting.... moving on.... |
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05/30/2007 09:15:39 AM · #15 |
| i believe in church. seems pretty simple to me. |
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05/30/2007 09:18:20 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Rooster:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
I agree. |
Yes, of course. But what are the standards by which we measure a DNMC? Also, voing low is not the only recourse. One could very well choose not to vote on the image. |
But then, imo, you're giving tacit approval to the challenges becoming basically freestudies.
I would never vote a 1 simply because an entry DNMC but I do remove a point or more, depending on if I can see ANY attempt to connect it or not.
Having said that, I do agree that many are extremely narrowminded regarding challenge descriptions. |
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05/30/2007 09:18:58 AM · #17 |
Some good points made... also i would like to draw everyone's attention to the definition of "Religion":
religion noun 1 a belief in, or the worship of, a god or gods. 2 a particular system of belief or worship, such as Christianity or Judaism. 3 colloq anything to which one is totally devoted and which rules one's life ΓΆ€ΒΆ mountaineering is his religion. 4 the monastic way of life.
ETYMOLOGY: 12c: French, from Latin religio bond or obligation, etc, from ligare to bind.
Also anything along the lines of the etymology should fit in line with DNMC voters who seem to like to be overly pedantic when deciding dnmc on a CONCEPTUAL challenge.
I have seen a picture of a tree, at a fork in the road with a car parked outside an extremely small (portaloo sized) hut under the said tree. The shot was called Religion - and it completely fit if you actually knew a thing or two about the shot and the term "religion".
/end rant. |
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05/30/2007 09:21:40 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Rino63:
Religion Details: What do you believe in?
sorry,perhaps my english is very bad but in a week I think that I can translate with a good approximation 5 words. what do you believe in? a car? a building? It's true that a church can inspire religious sentiment but don't meet the description of the challenge. in fact one simple shot of one church don't descrive a sentiment or a sensation. |
Sorry but, apparently you don't go to Church because I do get a sensation at Church (IN A BUILDING BY THE WAY). I get the sensation of overwhelming joy when we sing, of love from other members, of sorrow when one of our members is in the hospital or a dies. There is sensation there and there is sentiment too. I believe in going to Church (In a building). I believe that going to Church with other people who believe in what you believe in keeps you grounded in your faith, in your religion, in your belief. My entry isn't of a building but there are some very good ones that are of buildings.
Okay so I didn't move on... I guess I'm still venting. |
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05/30/2007 09:22:43 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Elvis_L:
i believe in church. seems pretty simple to me. |
yup, if I can believe in a car, I can believe in a building too ;) |
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05/30/2007 09:28:52 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by Sheryll:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Religion Details: What do you believe in?
sorry,perhaps my english is very bad but in a week I think that I can translate with a good approximation 5 words. what do you believe in? a car? a building? It's true that a church can inspire religious sentiment but don't meet the description of the challenge. in fact one simple shot of one church don't descrive a sentiment or a sensation. |
Sorry but, apparently you don't go to Church because I do get a sensation at Church (IN A BUILDING BY THE WAY). I get the sensation of overwhelming joy when we sing, of love from other members, of sorrow when one of our members is in the hospital or a dies. There is sensation there and there is sentiment too. I believe in going to Church (In a building). I believe that going to Church with other people who believe in what you believe in keeps you grounded in your faith, in your religion, in your belief. My entry isn't of a building but there are some very good ones that are of buildings.
Okay so I didn't move on... I guess I'm still venting. |
your sentiments are very noble. It's true that you tell on the sensations but the sensations are the subject of the contest not the building. The church is only the place where we go and where stay together the others peoples.
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05/30/2007 09:29:43 AM · #21 |
| I dunno. I know a lot of Southern Baptists that worship the building they meet in. . . . (and yes, I go to a S.B. church). |
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05/30/2007 09:35:10 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by karmat:
I dunno. I know a lot of Southern Baptists that worship the building they meet in. . . . (and yes, I go to a S.B. church). |
well, a shot with the southern baptiste while worship the building meet the challenge.
but perhaps for this thread is time for go to sleep. the argoument is delicate and some users could be annoyed for a discussion on the religious sentiments. |
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05/30/2007 09:37:48 AM · #23 |
| I think that the main problem in this challenge is that the title and the description are somewhat at odds. IMO one doesn't necessarily connect solidly with the other. |
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05/30/2007 09:41:28 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
I think that the main problem in this challenge is that the title and the description are somewhat at odds. IMO one doesn't necessarily connect solidly with the other. |
in fact my first shots was with subjects some churchs in naples.
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05/30/2007 09:42:25 AM · #25 |
Perhaps I misunderstood this challenge, I thought it was what you believe in? Not churches, christianity or monestaries. Many religions do not use churches and to vote them low because they don't seem to meet the criteria for a place of worship is showing a serious lack of knowledge and understanding of what religion really is. It also shows complete disregard for non-christian beliefs.
Message edited by author 2007-05-30 13:42:53. |
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