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03/03/2007 02:24:23 PM · #1 |
how do you get it? is it all in the editing? what editing techniques would i use for photoshop? is all in the lens? camera? subject alone? i've had some grungy looking topics, but i don't know how to make them look even more so. EvanH and xXxscarletxXx have put in grungy work before, and i like the look; i just don't know how to get it. help would be appreciated. thanks.
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03/03/2007 02:27:05 PM · #2 |
post an example of what you're after and we'll be better able to help you out.
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03/03/2007 02:29:38 PM · #3 |
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03/03/2007 02:31:19 PM · #4 |
as judi mentioned go find Joey Lawarence's video and This might help too
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03/03/2007 02:33:53 PM · #5 |
here's plenty of examples:
  
   
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03/03/2007 02:34:23 PM · #6 |
Hey! my name got mentioned I feel flattered lol
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03/03/2007 02:44:54 PM · #7 |
yeah, and five of your pics were posted too! any input?
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03/03/2007 02:47:25 PM · #8 |
Lots of dodge and burn, never use NI for grunge you lose the grittiness
Message edited by author 2007-03-03 19:47:52.
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03/03/2007 02:53:05 PM · #9 |
NI? and dodge and burn are hand tools only, right?
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03/03/2007 02:54:56 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Muppet:
NI? and dodge and burn are hand tools only, right? |
NI is neat image it smooths out all the noise etc, yes dodge and burn are hand tools
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03/03/2007 02:57:02 PM · #11 |
NI = neat image = a program that gets rid of grain in an image.
dodge& burn are selective editing tools used to brighten and darken specific ares of an image. not allowed in basic editing.
there are other ways to get similar effects using adjustment layers ( which are legal in basic editing - for the most part ) using curves - levels - hue/saturation - etc. and adjusting the opacity of the adjustment layers.
Message edited by author 2007-03-03 19:57:54.
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03/03/2007 02:59:21 PM · #12 |
Shoot subjects with lots of texture or backgrounds with such. When you edit them try filters like draganizer found here to get you started.
In addition duplicating layers or importing new ones which do have strong textures and changing the blending modes to something other than normal (i.e. overlay, multiply, etc) will also produce the grungy look. You'll then want to add masks to these layers to reduce the effect in certain places. For example if you want someone's face to be unaffected by the texture you'd apply a mask to the texture/overlay layer and erase those parts. Lowering the opacity and softness of the brush will produce more subtle effects. Experiment and you'll start to figure things out and fine tune them.
Edited for clarity.
Message edited by author 2007-03-03 20:02:05.
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03/03/2007 03:02:17 PM · #13 |
| As Yanko said you can get a good grunge effect by overlaying textures and changing the blending mode and erasing parts away, but the best grunge effects you achieve by using photoshop brushes. You can get hundreds of grunge brushes on Deviantart. |
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03/03/2007 03:05:35 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Shoot subjects with lots of texture or backgrounds with such. When you edit them try filters like draganizer found here to get you started.
In addition duplicating layers or importing new ones which do have strong textures and changing the blending modes to something other than normal (i.e. overlay, multiply, etc) will also produce the grungy look. You'll then want to add masks to these layers reduce the effect in certain places for example if you want someone's face to be unaffected by the texture you'd apply a mask to the texture layer and erase those parts. |
I often find that the Draganizer goes overboard on the grunge layer. I usually have to mask off the part that affects faces that aren't wrinkly. I usually just makes people look like they have blackheads :/
Mostly, the dragan/grunge look is defined by heavy dodge/burn and created vignetting, along with a desat of skin with saturation pushed or painted in the eyes. Just think of it as adding an artificial set of spotlights, some stage makeup, and colored contacts ;)
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03/03/2007 03:41:59 PM · #15 |
thanks ever'body! i'll try those tonight, and maybe do a selfportrait by the end of the week. any other suggestions? (sorry, i'm flying back and forth between this and other stuff)
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04/03/2007 07:36:08 PM · #16 |
haha, thanks for the cred!
i actually didn't use the draganizer
just some dodging and burning
blended a layer of concrete in the background of the band shot
hope that helps! |
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04/04/2007 07:45:22 AM · #17 |
I couldn't get to it anymore... but here's the cached version of Joey explaining how to use the draganizer:
//www.google.com/search?q=cache:eclNRPC0AKQJ:www.mrx.no/mrx/joeys_grunge_photo_effect.php+joey+lawrence+grunge+effect&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
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04/04/2007 07:48:00 AM · #18 |
| Another cool thing to try is to scratch up some processed negatives (preferably blank). Then scan them in and use them as a layer ontop of your picture... then change the layer mode to soft light or something similar. You can then mask out or erase parts that you don't want scratched. |
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