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02/28/2002 08:42:46 AM · #1 |
| I have two I'd like to submit for the macro contest. |
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02/28/2002 05:40:07 PM · #2 |
I have a lot more than two I'd like to submit, but I believe the rule is one only.
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02/28/2002 05:48:06 PM · #3 |
Yessir -- one entry only.
In fact, we're already swamped with submissions ... almost 25% of our photographers submitted to this challenge. We're going to have to break it up somehow eventually.
Andrew |
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03/01/2002 04:02:50 AM · #4 |
I'm not sure how you'd "police" it, but what about categorizing photographers (or challenges) by beginner, intermediate, and open. You could implement rules such as anyone winning beginner must move up to intermediate next time.
I'm sure there are other logical cagegories that could be considered as well... |
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03/01/2002 03:20:26 PM · #5 |
I like the idea of having different categories for the challenges, based on skill level. I'm not so sure it would need policing. If it's more presitgious to win the intermediate category, I think the more intermediate photographers will refrain from posting to the beginner category.
One possible level to police it, though, is to not let someone who has won more than some number (maybe 3?) on beginner challenges post into beginner anymore, and never let someone who has one in intermediate post to the beginner challenge. |
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03/03/2002 04:02:01 AM · #6 |
| I love the idea of breaking things down into catergories by beginner to intermediate ! |
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03/03/2002 11:47:42 AM · #7 |
What about having it like in the soccer. Having leagues. Then there would be season with maybe five contests and the finall result would be based on them. Then the winner and seccond place would move up in change for the two bottom places in the league above.
This would limit the submissions to each contest and make it easy to sort people down based on skills. |
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03/05/2002 07:36:03 PM · #8 |
| I like the league idea, it also cuts down on the amount of voting you have to do at any one time. God forbid every photographer on the site enters a challenge! We'd be voting for days. |
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03/11/2002 08:34:20 PM · #9 |
Please, lets NOT have different skill level categories. How the heck could you police that? I can see maybe dividing the entries up some how. But that also seems too complicated. What do you think about this suggestion? Just make it so everyone votes on at least 50 entries or your vote doesn't count, and encourage them to mix up their votes. Most people will probably vote on all of them anyway. But if someone is really busy that week then they don't have to spend a lot of time to vote. Again, please no separate skill level categories. Everyone will get better and it's really about giving ourselves practice assignments that can be graded, right?
GREAT site! -Tim J.
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03/11/2002 10:06:36 PM · #10 |
I think skill levels would be a lot of fun if the rules were coded into the site (sounds like a lot of work though).
You could have newbie, intermediate, advanced, and master class.
The rules could work like this: The only way to move up is to win a challenge and/or to consistently have an average rating on your photo submissions. For example, to be intermediate you'd need an average rating of 7, advanced would need 8s, and master class 9s or higher.
It would be interesting because even the pros would have to start at the bottom and work to get to the top. Plus it would be incentive to improve your photos.
The cool thing is if you start slacking off on your photos you start to fall in the rankings and vice versa.
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03/12/2002 03:49:18 AM · #11 |
mikeys_bistro- That's a good suggestion, but the last 3 challenges, the winners have only had low to mid 8s. Although I think a similiar system would work.
timj- We're growing more and more everyday. Right now there are 71 submissions for ~360 photographers that we have. Can you imagine how grading 250 submissions or more will be if/when we have 1000+ photographers? We need to divide users up in some way shape or form -- and we figured skill level would be a great way to do it. What solutions do you think would work well? |
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03/12/2002 05:58:35 AM · #12 |
For the record, I like the skill-level idea. But like others have said, it would have to be done in a very mathematical fashion.
Another thing I was thinking of recently was just adding more challenges to the lineup. Maybe 3 7-day challenges going off in a staggered fashion would break up the submissions and lower the amount of photos in each challenge. You could have one challenge go from Monday - Sunday like you have now, another from Wednesday - Tuesday and another from Friday - Thursday.
Any way you slice it, I think adding more challenges to enter at any given time would lower the average amount of submissions in each one.
- mike |
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03/12/2002 07:35:12 AM · #13 |
Yeah, now that I think of it, if it takes a 7, I might never make it into the intermediate ranking :-p
I also like the staggered/short challenge idea.
What about a 24 hour, speed photo challenge, give a topic and we have to complete the challenge within 24 hours. Aaack! Preferably on a weekend, but a speed work day challenge would certainly be fun, though we might get a lot of pictures of copiers and fax machines. |
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03/12/2002 08:07:39 AM · #14 |
I don't understand why everyone seems to think there needs to be some complex mathematical basis for policing different levels on the challenges. I am sure there are very simple solutions that are more than sufficient, and that give the photographers more choice than any complete auto-categorization of photographers would.
One possibility comes to my mind.
Say there are four classes, Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, and Master. We'll call them 1,2,3, and 4 respectively. Each photographer has a lowest category she can post to. By default this is 1, so when you sign up for an account you are able to post your photos to whichever level challenge you feel is appropriate for you.
The policing is simple and works as follows:
If you ever get a ribbon (1st, 2nd or 3rd place) in level 1 then your minimum goes up to level 2.
If you ever get 1st or 2nd in level 2 your minimum goes up to level 3.
If you ever get 1st on level 3 your minimum goes up to level 4.
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This only works well if there is a constant influx of new users (although it can be slow, an average of 3 new participating users each week would suffice). It might be wise to run some simulations to see how the populations of the groups might develop.
The number of people from each category who move up each weekk might need to be adjusted depending on the number of users coming in. If too many new users are coming in and posting to the beginner category, it could be adjusted to move the top 6 instead of the top 3 into the next class.
The other possibility is too few users coming in. An adjustment that could be made here is a delay between meeting the requirements that a photographer moves up a level and actually moving her up. For example, if you win in the top 3 in the beginner class, you can only post to the beginner class again for the next, say, 3 challenge and then your minimum is class increases to 2.
* This message has been edited by the author on 3/12/2002 1:08:12 PM.
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* This message has been edited by the author on 3/12/2002 1:10:20 PM. |
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03/12/2002 08:52:47 AM · #15 |
Hi Langdon,
I said, have everyone required to vote on at least '50' photos, not '250'. But any reasonable number would do. Or, how about this? Just add another challenge as the number of people grow. And then limited the number of entries in each catagory achieved by dividing the total number of people by the number of categories or at least a manageable number. For example: If there are 300 photographers, have two seperate challenges with the maximum number of participants in each category limited to 150, and you can only participate in one category, and vote in both.
I'm just thinking that if we break this into skill level categories then , at least for me, it takes the fun out of. I'm not a professional by any means but I like to think that on any given week I could put everything together just right in a photo and win against a pro. That's the challenge in 'dpchallenge' for me.
Now that I'm done ranting I have a self portrait to take. My camera will hate me
-Tim J. |
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