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02/15/2006 07:22:15 AM · #26 |
Me  ; Me  ; Me  ; Me  .
My Wife  ; My younger daughter  ; My older daughter  ; My older daughter's legs  ; My wife and older daughter 
51 challenges entered
4/51 = 8% Me usage
5/51 = 10% Family usage
9/51 = 18% Total Model Sadness :-(
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02/15/2006 07:25:44 AM · #27 |
| I just have to say that i'm keeping my beeing here a secret from my friends until i get any good :)so for the next 5 years or so you will be seeing loads of self portrets of me :) |
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02/15/2006 07:26:04 AM · #28 |
This is a Tough one, I think...I do understand the problem here.
I was actually looking through the entries for one of the challenges and saw a face I am fast recognizing everytime. My solution is to not vote on that entry. I do not want any opinion good, bad or otherwise to colour my vote.
That said, I don't have models at my disposal and use myself on occasion. I try and be discrete about it, but I realize I have been here long enough now, that people may recognize me, and I don't want that to influence anyones vote.
Hand me a scarf, its a little chilly up here on the fence :) |
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02/15/2006 07:27:41 AM · #29 |
what's wrong with me using my models over and over? They're cute
 
 
 ...ok, this was a crappy shot, but the models are cute |
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02/15/2006 07:28:31 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
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It can work against you as well...
Message edited by author 2006-02-15 12:29:30.
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02/15/2006 07:41:10 AM · #31 |
I know for me I just dont have the access to have a different model every time. I have 3 people I can used Myself, my boyfriend and my sister. but that is also assuming that they are not working when i have the oppertunity to do my shoot. So if i have to hop into my own shots thats what Im going to do. Im not going to ignore a good challenge or a great idea i may have beacuse someone doesnt want to see me in the shot,
having limited resorces and a crazy work schedule you make do with what you have
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02/15/2006 07:46:00 AM · #32 |
The biggest problem I have with using myself as a model is when the voters don't like my picture, it's 2 strikes against me :(
Very hard on the ego...
 4.492 (ouch!) |
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02/15/2006 07:52:07 AM · #33 |
| I try to avoid using my wife in challenges as much as I can to keep from getting recognized. It is not easy though when I need a model. Since this site is really just for fun and due to the time restrictions going out and finding a model is often impractical. So I am really pretty much limited to myself, my wife, and my step daughter. I have yet to use my step daughter or myself though. Just haven't had a need for a kid yet and I really hate taking pictures of myself. I actually did use myself for the Sins challenge but I hated the results so much there was no way I was entering them. |
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02/15/2006 08:03:42 AM · #34 |
I am guilty of posing for my images but then think what model would work me for a DPC challenge with no reward. I am very popular with many models because I strive for the persuasive image but then they are paying me.
You see, it is easy for me to use a model but then that would give me an advantage over those who have no access. To do so would mean either to pay them or reduce my fees for their shoot. Not a good proposition. Friends are good but be careful, once you have the image up in competition they may get cold feet about not having their image on the internet. This means you will have to DQ yourself. I want no part of a dq in either sense. As a matter of fact if I ever suffer a DQ I will never enter again and that is why I have brought up the DQ topic in the forum and more precise rules.
Now, you make an image and if it stinks because of either technical deficiency or compositional value, it matters little whose face is on. The voting blocks are pretty sophisticated in marking up and down on the merit of the effort. Believe you will not see a bad nicoblue, graphicfunk Joeylawarence or anybosy elses with top credits if it stinks.
Since I shoot myself it requires a lot of juggling because I hardly ever use lights in one blast. Instead some shoot as the shutter opens and then these are disabled while another set is activated to complete the exposure. It is very difficult for models to sit through this.
Message edited by author 2006-02-15 13:06:18. |
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02/15/2006 08:22:01 AM · #35 |
I do alot of my own modelling, for lack of friends or family that would help me. 
heres one of my face and arm and my wife's foot. |
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02/15/2006 08:27:08 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
Believe you will not see a bad ******, ********** *********** or anybosy elses with top credits if it stinks.
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No names needed but I feel like I've seen a number of ribbon winners come from popular DPC photographers that I feel floated in mostly on their popularity...NO absolute stinkers, true but a few, very mediocre images have made the front page in my minds eye.
Nothing big or often enough to get anyones panties in a bunch over but I think it certainly happens...in my mind anyway, without question.
Not worth harping over, I should add but maybe worth noting.
Message edited by author 2006-02-15 13:28:27.
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02/15/2006 08:34:00 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
Believe you will not see a bad ******, ********** *********** or anybosy elses with top credits if it stinks.
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No names needed but I feel like I've seen a number of ribbon winners come from popular DPC photographers that I feel floated in mostly on their popularity...NO absolute stinkers, true but a few, very mediocre images have made the front page in my minds eye.
Nothing big or often enough to get anyones panties in a bunch over but I think it certainly happens...in my mind anyway, without question.
Not worth harping over, I should add but maybe worth noting. |
I'd respectfully submit that the reason they ARE popular is because their "styles" strike a chord with the voters, so it follows that images done in that style may receive higher votes than you or I (or any other individual) think they merit. I don't think it has much to do with large numbers of voters "recognizing" the photographer and giving him/her a higher score because of it. I don't think most of the voters even read these forums or follow closely enough to "recognize" individual shooters/models, etc. Heck, sometimes *I* see a "hauntingly familiar" model and can't for the life of me remember who it is that uses that model, let alone whether I "like" him or her.
R.
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02/15/2006 08:46:40 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
Believe you will not see a bad ******, ********** *********** or anybosy elses with top credits if it stinks.
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No names needed but I feel like I've seen a number of ribbon winners come from popular DPC photographers that I feel floated in mostly on their popularity...NO absolute stinkers, true but a few, very mediocre images have made the front page in my minds eye.
Nothing big or often enough to get anyones panties in a bunch over but I think it certainly happens...in my mind anyway, without question.
Not worth harping over, I should add but maybe worth noting. |
At the same time, I've seen several shots where I can ID the photographer, based solely on their "style".
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02/15/2006 08:55:55 AM · #39 |
I Dont use mysely be cause too many viewers who saw my original profile picture where turned to stone !!!!LOL
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02/15/2006 08:58:48 AM · #40 |
[quote=BradP] If you do pay for a model, don't make the mistake I did:
[url=//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=229124]$2.95 models are problematic/quote]
we had a dog called Zac, looked a bit like your son as well
, with that loopy expression
Message edited by author 2006-02-15 14:00:14.
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02/15/2006 09:10:29 AM · #41 |
You paying for the models??? They go for a lot around here...
Since you are NOTpaying for everyone's models... then live withthe fact we use ourselves and our families at NO COST..andfor you to mark down a photo because you recognize someone IN MY OPINION is juvenile and petty.
Originally posted by kenskid:
I'm starting to see a patter develop. I'm see recognizable members as part of the photo. I feel this may sway scores for the good or bad.
I feel that you should get a model if you need a person in the shot.
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Message edited by author 2006-02-15 14:15:28. |
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02/15/2006 09:19:15 AM · #42 |
Kenny (kenskid) is a hit-n-run? Haven't heard from him since the OP. ;^)
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02/15/2006 09:37:43 AM · #43 |
I've threatened to steal Keith Maniac's wife for some shots and try to steal his scores, but I'm afraid people will think "Poor Chris ... the quality of his work is declining."
Kapan:
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02/15/2006 09:51:43 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I'd respectfully submit that the reason they ARE popular is because their "styles" strike a chord with the voters, so it follows that images done in that style may receive ...
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I agree that they are doing popular things that strike a chord with voters so it's only natural that votes will line up in such a way...but what I'm saying is beyond that....even when they have not submitted anything close to their best...they occasionally get by on recognition more than quality or style.
Again...it DON'T think it happens enough to get uptight about but I sincerely believe it happens. Gushing comments on sub par images is a pretty good indicator of that.
Message edited by author 2006-02-15 15:08:07.
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02/15/2006 10:01:54 AM · #45 |
I can't find models dumb enough to do half of the things that I do in my own photos. the good news is that I have a SP in a current challenge, and the score has dropped by 3/4 of a point since this thread popped up. So there's that.
P |
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02/15/2006 10:36:12 AM · #46 |
Actually, very few of the challenges require the use of a model. It's just some people's taste that pushes them to shooting more shots with people in them.
What might be appropriate would be a sentence or two in the rules that generally discourages the use of any model, pet, subject, scene, place, landscape, border, style, etc. to the extent that it becomes familiar to the voters and can be easily identified with a particular user. Violation would not be a DQ-able offense but rather let the voters decide as we do with meeting the challenge.
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02/15/2006 10:42:28 AM · #47 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
Actually, very few of the challenges require the use of a model. It's just some people's taste that pushes them to shooting more shots with people in them.
What might be appropriate would be a sentence or two in the rules that generally discourages the use of any model, pet, subject, scene, place, landscape, border, style, etc. to the extent that it becomes familiar to the voters and can be easily identified with a particular user. Violation would not be a DQ-able offense but rather let the voters decide as we do with meeting the challenge. |
Why muddy the waters any more than they are currently. Besides, you are joking anyway right? ;^)
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02/15/2006 10:49:41 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
What might be appropriate would be a sentence or two in the rules that generally discourages the use of any model, pet, subject, scene, place, landscape, border, style, etc. to the extent that it becomes familiar to the voters and can be easily identified with a particular user. Violation would not be a DQ-able offense but rather let the voters decide as we do with meeting the challenge. |
I don't think it requires any writing down since many people obviously don't agree that it's an offense of any sort to begin with.
I would however like to see it considered bad etiquette to serve up the same exact models over and over, no matter who you are or how many ribbons you've won. Over and over AND over being the operative key.
Just an opinion...
Message edited by author 2006-02-15 16:17:12.
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02/15/2006 10:49:44 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
Violation would not be a DQ-able offense but rather let the voters decide as we do with meeting the challenge. |
don't they decide already? i mean, threads like these keep popping up. i can't imagine that doesn't affect the scores they give. |
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02/15/2006 10:51:52 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
What might be appropriate would be a sentence or two in the rules that generally discourages the use of any model, pet, subject, scene, place, landscape, border, style, etc. to the extent that it becomes familiar to the voters and can be easily identified with a particular user. |
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