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02/08/2006 07:34:44 PM · #1 |
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02/08/2006 07:42:11 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by Hail the Heartbreaker:
Just a question. |
has happened to me so that makes 2 o9f us >>>>twinnie !!!!LOL
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02/08/2006 07:42:57 PM · #3 |
Hi Hail, hope you do not mind being called just Hail! Anyway, if you read all the threads concerning the lack of comments, you will know that unfortunatly, unless you have a high scoring photo, the answer is - Yes, that is getting to be the norm now. Reasons have been discussed in many threads, including my own. I find it really too bad, though I do understand the rational of the reasoning to not vote. I hope it picks back up, and SOON.
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02/08/2006 07:49:14 PM · #4 |
Well, I HAVE always wanted my own twin. Welcome to the family!
I only ask because my last photo scored pretty badly but still got a number of comments. |
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02/08/2006 08:05:45 PM · #5 |
| It is usually those photos with scores in the middle -- say between 4.3 and 5.6 -- which tend to get the fewest comments. |
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02/08/2006 08:05:49 PM · #6 |
You did have over 300 votes and got 9 comments, which is not really enough (in my opinion), but quite a few voters vote first, then come back and make comments later. I always prefer to make the comments while voting, but I have gone back and added comments later too, so you can hope lots of your voters do that this time!
Jacque |
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02/08/2006 08:22:58 PM · #7 |
114 votes on abstract, no comments.
Average shots (4.5-5.5) get the least comments.
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02/08/2006 08:26:08 PM · #8 |
| I wanna join up too :) 119 votes and no comments. |
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02/08/2006 08:41:40 PM · #9 |
Let's see:
Abstract: 0 comments / 116 votes / North of 6
Motion: 10 comments / 146 votes / North of 6
Hmmm my estimation is that for Abstract, people have a hard time commenting. I mean, abstract is a matter of taste right? I guess mine has zero taste at all :P |
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02/08/2006 08:51:47 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Rikki:
Hmmm my estimation is that for Abstract, people have a hard time commenting. I mean, abstract is a matter of taste right? I guess mine has zero taste at all :P |
My guess is that abstract will have a record low number of comments probably because it is subjective without a subject so to speak. The only comments that came to mind when I went through some of them is either "Wow, what is that thing?" (positive) or "The only improvement I could suggest is that you take a better picture of something else" (negative) - so I think it better to say nothing. :) |
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02/08/2006 08:54:21 PM · #11 |
| ya same here Ken. it's tough and i wonder if we'll be setting a record for low scores and comments :) ... well i think we're setting it for motion panning too :( |
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02/08/2006 08:58:56 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
... "The only improvement I could suggest is that you take a better picture of something else"... |
Ken, That is my all time killer favourite comment! Laugh Out freakin' LOUD! I must use it. May I? Better still, could YOU use it on one of mine? Any one at all ... I love it. |
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02/08/2006 09:05:00 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by ubique:
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
... "The only improvement I could suggest is that you take a better picture of something else"... |
could YOU use it on one of mine? Any one at all ... I love it. |
LOL - you gotta be kidding - you have some great stuff in your profile...
I don't have a cow....man. :)
Feel free to quote anything I ever say - I'll just deny it. :) |
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02/08/2006 09:47:00 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Hail the Heartbreaker:
Just a question. |
Calculated from the current challenge history the average number of comments per 100 votes is normally right at 5. Recent challenges with more large submissions have been averaging fewer.
When you have an image that gets around 15 comments per 100 votes then you know you have a major winner on your hands.
The likely reason you have none is because yours is a middle of the road type image in a large challenge and isn't attracting attention. It does not mean it is bad.
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02/10/2006 06:57:58 AM · #15 |
There seem to be a number of you complaining about getting no comments. How many did you actually comment on and what criteria are you using?
I'm very new to DPC and have only looked at two challenges so far, but I'm trying to comment all entries I mark 1-3 and 8-10 and anything in between where I've got something that I think would be useful to say. Whether I can afford the time to keep this up only time will tell. |
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02/10/2006 07:07:35 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by sjohnston:
There seem to be a number of you complaining about getting no comments. How many did you actually comment on and what criteria are you using?
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How many photos I personally comment on will have absolutely NO effect on whether my photo receives any comments. My comment given to comment received ratio is double. I still get less than 10 comments on MOST of my photos. (I understand why, there is no hope for most of my stuff :) )
Sorry, there's no correlation. Remember, challenges are anonymous during voting, and except for the top 10 images, that's when most if not all of the comments are placed.
Message edited by author 2006-02-10 12:08:16.
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02/10/2006 07:30:42 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by nards656:
I still get less than 10 comments on MOST of my photos. |
That sounds pretty good to me. :)
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02/10/2006 07:42:07 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by nards656:
Originally posted by sjohnston:
There seem to be a number of you complaining about getting no comments. How many did you actually comment on and what criteria are you using?
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How many photos I personally comment on will have absolutely NO effect on whether my photo receives any comments. My comment given to comment received ratio is double. I still get less than 10 comments on MOST of my photos. (I understand why, there is no hope for most of my stuff :) )
Sorry, there's no correlation. Remember, challenges are anonymous during voting, and except for the top 10 images, that's when most if not all of the comments are placed. |
Forgive me if you think I'm being critical of how much you vote; that was not the point I was trying to make. I've been voting for high/low quality photos, with most of those in between not getting a comment due to time available.
If most people vote in roughly the same way then realistically anyone in the middle group would not even comment on their own work because it is not the best or the worst. |
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02/10/2006 07:44:19 AM · #19 |
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02/10/2006 07:54:17 AM · #20 |
I was in a similar situation on my fantasy entry; ended up with only 4 total comments, which is disappointing, but then it's a totally middle of the road shot - dominated by votes of "5". From my own experience as a voter it is really hard to say much on these types of images. It's (and I'm talking about my recent entries, not trying to dis anybody) a photo, meets the challenge, does not have any major and/or obvious technical flaws but at the end of the day does not have wow, zip, charm, emotion, interest, whatever it is that makes it a contender from the next level.
I don't think any comment will magically give me the ability to capture whatever that elusive thing is - I've got to figure that out for myself. The only way I can do that is to keep on shooting. Ultimately, the motivation has to come from within. I took a long hiatus from DPC challenges because I started worrying more about scores and numbers of comments than about taking the picture and that was no good for me. So now I won't enter a challenge unless I have no expectations. That means I have to be okay with zero comments and a score of 1.0.
But all that being said, even though I only got 4 comments on my last try - one was from graphicfunk who is my all time favorite DPCer. That totally made my day - thanks!
My new attitude hasn't made much of an impact on my scores, but I'm sure having a much happier time - and that is really the important thing. |
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02/10/2006 07:56:05 AM · #21 |
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02/10/2006 07:57:38 AM · #22 |
Yes.
I have received upwards of 100 votes without a comment. I have received as few as two comments with over 150 votes and more then 15 comments with just over 400 votes. |
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02/10/2006 08:07:36 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by joebok:
I was in a similar situation on my fantasy entry; ended up with only 4 total comments, which is disappointing, but then it's a totally middle of the road shot - dominated by votes of "5". From my own experience as a voter it is really hard to say much on these types of images. |
Seems to me that these are the ones that should be commented on the most.
The ones at the top you only point out what is right about them.
The ones at the bottom often are bad enough where the suggestion "that you take a better picture of something else" actually makes sense.
But the ones in the middle are the images that can be improved where the photographer can benefit most from a critique and they get the fewest. I'm as guilty as anyone for that.
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02/10/2006 08:27:17 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Originally posted by joebok:
I was in a similar situation on my fantasy entry; ended up with only 4 total comments, which is disappointing, but then it's a totally middle of the road shot - dominated by votes of "5". From my own experience as a voter it is really hard to say much on these types of images. |
Seems to me that these are the ones that should be commented on the most.
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Yes - but it very hard to give specific, useful advice on a 5. "Nice photo, meets challenge, no major technical issues - but you should have taken a photo of something else or found a way to add more pizzaz." For me, I'd rather just have the numerical "5" than that sort of comment.
I actually think the best way to go is to comment more on the 6s. For my voting style (which I think is fairly common), a '6' means there is something there with potential. That is worth commenting on and would be encouraging. Time permitting, this is what I try to do when I vote. |
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03/10/2006 11:05:10 AM · #25 |
i guess i approach it as i approach critiquing and marking (i'm an art teacher, and a cambridge exam art adjudicator). i do the voting first, quite quickly. then, i look at the collated images, and decide if any need to go up or down. then i go through and try to comment on every single one. i do it a bit at a time, but i am getting there (having only done 3 challenges so far!)
yes, sometimes it is a cursory note, but i do believe everything helps. from 'wow!' to 'dodge upper left corner'.
so, i don't like it when i get no comments. surely, the ones with the lower votes need the comments more? to improve?
does that make any sense?
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