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10/11/2002 11:41:51 AM · #1
I've had my Sony DSC-F707 for a week now and have taken several pictures using the Solarize, Sepia, and Negative camera settings. These settings alter the look of the photograph when I take it. Are using these settings on a submission against the rules?
10/11/2002 11:43:15 AM · #2
No. If they are in-camera features, they are not against the rules.
Anyone else?



* This message has been edited by the author on 10/11/2002 3:41:19 PM.
10/11/2002 11:53:25 AM · #3
I agree with Karen, but I also think that it's even legal to add these with an editing software also. I'm not sure about the Solarize, but sepia is allowed as a post edit, if I understand correctly. As long as it's done to the entire photo, right? Just like changing it to black and white. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
~Heather~
10/11/2002 12:00:23 PM · #4
I know that sepia definatly is allowed post-precessing, but I'm not sure about the other 2.

goodtempo: If these are in-camera features you may use them, but some people might think you added them after and will maybe vote you down because of that.
10/11/2002 12:03:05 PM · #5
Originally posted by hbunch7187:
I agree with Karen, but I also think that it's even legal to add these with an editing software also. I'm not sure about the Solarize, but sepia is allowed as a post edit, if I understand correctly. As long as it's done to the entire photo, right? Just like changing it to black and white. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
~Heather~


Yes, they apply to the entire photo.
10/11/2002 12:04:42 PM · #6
Originally posted by Konador:
I know that sepia definatly is allowed post-precessing, but I'm not sure about the other 2.

goodtempo: If these are in-camera features you may use them, but some people might think you added them after and will maybe vote you down because of that.


Yes, they came built in to the camera and are not adjustable. You can switch to one of them and take the picture or not use them.
10/11/2002 12:48:13 PM · #7
It seems completely legal to me. My question would be, why not just wait to do the effect in post processing to better control the effect and so that you still have the original with which to do different effects to?

T
10/11/2002 01:00:16 PM · #8
Originally posted by timj351:
It seems completely legal to me. My question would be, why not just wait to do the effect in post processing to better control the effect and so that you still have the original with which to do different effects to?

T


Definitely! I have taken some shots using the effects "in" the camera, and was sorry later that I did not take them in color, or at least do both! Lesson learned for me, and a very good point timj351!

Linda

10/11/2002 09:22:29 PM · #9
Good point about taking the photo without the effect to have the original. Thanks all for the suggestions. It helps a lot to hear the different thoughts on the subject.
10/12/2002 03:03:55 AM · #10
Here is what I think is an example of this rules question. I thought about entering this in the Garbage Challenge this week but went another direction when I wasn't sure whether it was eligible and how it would be recieved. It is a shot of brown beer and liquor bottles that I post processed into a negative. What do you think? "Saturday Night Memories"

10/12/2002 03:53:41 AM · #11
Originally posted by DougPaz:
Here is what I think is an example of this rules question. I thought about entering this in the Garbage Challenge this week but went another direction when I wasn't sure whether it was eligible and how it would be recieved. It is a shot of brown beer and liquor bottles that I post processed into a negative. What do you think? "Saturday Night Memories"


I think you are really asking two questions:

Is it eligible : yes

How would it be received: probably badly around here, but there is no harm in trying.

* This message has been edited by the author on 10/12/2002 7:52:00 AM.
10/12/2002 04:43:32 AM · #12
I really like the picture. It is different, stands out from the other trashy photos. Did that come out right? :)
10/12/2002 05:16:54 AM · #13
I have this strange hangup about photography. I like photos that look like photos. When in-camera and post processing do things like this, it changes the value of the image for me completely. I like to differentiate between digital photography and digital art. Certain post processing techniques, IMO, move an image out of the digital photography realm and into the world of digital art.

It's not that I don't like the image... it's that I don't like it as a photograph...

10/12/2002 07:52:36 AM · #14
I did a sepia for the My Little Corner of the World Challenge. I think it scored fairly well, take a look at the comments I got and see if it is worth it to you...

Dixie Milling Co.
10/12/2002 08:34:45 AM · #15
Originally posted by MarkRob:
I did a sepia for the My Little Corner of the World Challenge. I think it scored fairly well, take a look at the comments I got and see if it is worth it to you...

Dixie Milling Co.



Sepias and black and whites are not included in the post processing that I mentioned above... I should have clarified that...


10/12/2002 12:45:43 PM · #16
Originally posted by JohnSetzler :
Sepias and black and whites are not included in the post processing that I mentioned above... I should have clarified that...


But you don't count negatives as proper photos?

After all, that's the way a photo originally comes out when it's processed by film. Would you really count this as 'digital art' rather than a photo?

I do actually agree with you when it comes to modifying/processing the colours of a photo - to me, this IS art - but I just wanted to clear up the matter about simple negatives?

10/12/2002 05:10:43 PM · #17
Originally posted by JohnSetzler :
I have this strange hangup about photography. I like photos that look like photos. When in-camera and post processing do things like this, it changes the value of the image for me completely. I like to differentiate between digital photography and digital art. Certain post processing techniques, IMO, move an image out of the digital photography realm and into the world of digital art.

It's not that I don't like the image... it's that I don't like it as a photograph...


Wow. You concisely stated a distinction that I've had difficulty verbalizing. Mind if I borrow your phrasing?

Dawn
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