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09/15/2002 10:18:21 PM · #1 |
Thanks to everyone for the votes and great comments this week... Special thanks to Kim for letting me do this photo :)
I would really have loved to post THIS PHOTO instead but I couldn't find a legal way to do it...
Thanks :)
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09/15/2002 10:26:04 PM · #2 |
You're right -- would be tricky; wasn't there a photo subjected to DQ analysis a few weeks ago which dealt with something like that?
But it looks great the way you "had" to do it too. |
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09/15/2002 10:42:29 PM · #3 |
I agree,
Fantabulous photo :)
Congratulations
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09/16/2002 02:25:30 AM · #4 |
| Love the photo both ways. Congratulations on an outstanding job. :) |
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09/16/2002 03:27:36 AM · #5 |
| Congratulations - well-deserved win! I like the m both ... |
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09/16/2002 04:23:04 AM · #6 |
| Congrats! Well desrved win... I actually like the submitted version better, but that's just me. |
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09/16/2002 04:29:19 AM · #7 |
Great in b&w, too, John! I guess if you desaturated all the channels except for Red, there would still be a red tint to her skin?
(Just a thought without trying it out myself).
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09/16/2002 04:32:25 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Karen Bryan:
Great in b&w, too, John! I guess if you desaturated all the channels except for Red, there would still be a red tint to her skin?
(Just a thought without trying it out myself).
Funny you should ask that because I did try that first. If you look at the image, RED is about the only color present. Desaturating everything but RED really doesn't change the image very much :)
It did not leave the apple red by the time I got the skin in black and white... :(
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09/16/2002 04:37:22 AM · #9 |
John,
Congrats on a job well done. How much did your props cost this time? You could probably sell the apple a few times and make it back.
Good job!
Autool |
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09/16/2002 04:39:09 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by autool:
John,
Congrats on a job well done. How much did your props cost this time? You could probably sell the apple a few times and make it back.
Good job!
Autool
The apple is plastic... I paid $1.99 for it at Michael's :)
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09/16/2002 04:40:54 AM · #11 |
I know we've talked about this in the chatroom but I have to say I prefer the full colour version you actually entered than the semi BW one. I love the match between her skin and the colour of the apple. It's so warm and inviting. :)
Congrats btw :):):)
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09/16/2002 04:41:49 AM · #12 |
I thought it was a real apple! Ha! Was wondering if you spent alot of time picking out a perfect one in the produce section!
RE: the destaturation: yes, I noticed that after I posted the above. Oh well.
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09/16/2002 04:51:21 AM · #13 |
Oh Yeah, very artistic. Your model has a very lovely body. I was just reading another post a couple of days ago of some of the photographers who were applauding the young members of the group for their work. Once again the message has been sent to the children and teenage girls that you must have a perfect, beautiful body to be acceptable. It doesn't matter what you have to do to get it or keep it! Once you achieve it then you can use it to your advantage. This picture is not considered indecent but how about the next one the photographer asks you to pose for. Look at the beautiful baby pictures of your little girls---then tell me what message you want sent to them? You are a chubby 12 year old and dieting doesn't work--what next? You just naturally have that beautiful body at age 13--use it post for some "artistic" photographer and make money. The kids get this message 24/7 everywhere they turn. Thanks for adding to it.
Please note that your photo didn't even rank in the non photographers voting. Is someone trying to send our artistic friends a message? |
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09/16/2002 05:06:14 AM · #14 |
Ruth, I am not apologizing for this photo, nor am I trying to send the message that you have implied here...
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09/16/2002 05:21:40 AM · #15 |
Ruth, I think you have issues. This isn't porn and he didn't pay the *model*. It's his girlfriend. Your comment is uncalled for. This is well done and presented and not that type of message to anyone. Get a camera and do some photography then come critique...how's that?
Congrats on your well deserved win John. |
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09/16/2002 05:26:42 AM · #16 |
The message I rec'd in this shot was more of "The perfection of Eve in the garden before sin". (Does that help or hinder?)
Does not say all girls, women should look like perfect models or anything.
* This message has been edited by the author on 9/16/2002 9:25:37 AM.
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09/16/2002 05:43:02 AM · #17 |
Ruth is entitled to her opinion :) I actually expected to get more like hers in my comments during the voting week. An image like this one can be offensive to many for different reasons, hers just being one of those.
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09/16/2002 05:45:34 AM · #18 |
I understand where Ruth is coming from, because I get really conflicted over some portrayals of the female body. I've never been a thin person, and when I was a teenager I used to starve myself to try and fit that media image of what I "should" have looked like. That's part of the reasoning behind my Candid submission - I get really tired of the way only some female bodies are supposed to appear in public and not others.
HOWEVER... as much as this is an important discussion, it has nothing to do with jmsetzler's photo. I don't see objectification here at all. There have been some far worse culprits on this site, many associated with the fine American establishment of "Hooters". Take your anger out on them! It's wasted here.
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09/16/2002 05:49:11 AM · #19 |
By the way... If we all get pizza from a 3 time winner, what does John get to treat us to for 4? If it's more pizza, I want mushrooms.
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09/16/2002 05:51:24 AM · #20 |
You guys better go see Timj and Connie first :)
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09/16/2002 06:21:25 AM · #21 |
So Mr. Setzler, when are you gonna quit your day-time job?.....excellent photo. You're right, BW is even more striking. I suspect you favorite count is going to continue to climb endlessly, which is very well deserved!
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09/16/2002 06:23:31 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by chakkobbo:
So Mr. Setzler, when are you gonna quit your day-time job?.....excellent photo. You're right, BW is even more striking. I suspect you favorite count is going to continue to climb endlessly, which is very well deserved!
Thanks for the compliment :) I don't forsee changing jobs until I can figure out how to successfully sell a print.. lol... I'm still buying lottery tickets also :)
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09/16/2002 06:27:51 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Ruth is entitled to her opinion :) I actually expected to get more like hers in my comments during the voting week. An image like this one can be offensive to many for different reasons, hers just being one of those.
Not saying people aren't entitled to their opinion. Just wanted to show another side to it.
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09/16/2002 06:38:34 AM · #24 |
Lotto tickets are great!
....more seriously, I think the model is probably to do a job that one can manage in a "short" work week, then take as much time as possible on the side to shoot and possibly free-lance. We all know photography is not an easy profession and extremely competitive. As a hobby, maybe it's easier to keep the motivation up in the long-term? |
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09/16/2002 12:00:56 PM · #25 |
| My reaction is not anger, it is reality check! If this was a web site limited to only adults then that would be different. If I did not like the picture I would simply click off site and be gone. There is more than just technique, form etc.etc. to an art. There is the influence that art media creates in our society and when that can include children then this grandmother will stand up and speak out. I watched a segement of Date Line last night where Jamie Lee Curtis spoke of a story about her in a recent magazine. Sorry but I don't remember the name of it. Realizing the impact of models, photography and her profession she appeared in a shot of her underwear, without make up---just as she really is and then posed for a shot where she had been professionally prepared. As a mother and responsible adult she had come to realize the impact her and others have on our young girls and boys and the message that is constantly being communicated to them. Talk about somebody who deserves a ten! Stop and think--even in a Family Circle magazine that Mom brings home there will be photos for the latest diet supplement showing before and after shots. The majority of kids who see photo's don't even think about them being altered to make that person appear differently. I believe it is now a common pratice in some professional studio's who take portraits. Some of you are just amateurs and others worked in the profession you enjoy. What I ask is that you stop and think of the impact of what you do. It does not make a difference if it's a hobby or not--you have a responsibility to others and no one lives without impact upon others lives. |
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