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04/02/2002 01:21:30 AM · #1 |
Am I the only one who is pretty sure that there are two, maybe three, shots in the challenge that are not architecture?
I don't want to mention any shots, but, here's the simple definition(s) from dictionary.com:
The art and science of designing and erecting buildings. Buildings and other large structures A style and method of design and construction: Byzantine architecture. Orderly arrangement of parts; structure: the architecture of the federal bureaucracy; the architecture of a novel. Computer Science. The overall design or structure of a computer system, including the hardware and the software required to run it, especially the internal structure of the microprocessor.
Now go look at the submissions. There are exactly three shots that do not belong.
* This message has been edited by the author on 4/2/2002 6:22:01 AM.
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04/02/2002 01:42:41 AM · #2 |
I think that all of the photos in this challenge fall into the category of architecture. It is not only restricted to buildings. Here is what Webster lists as one of the meanings of the word "architecture"...
2 a : formation or construction as or as if as the result of conscious act
Computers are formed and constructed, as well as music, as well as blocks and cards. They all have architectural components to them. To limit the definition of the word restricts the creativity of the photographers taking the shot.
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04/02/2002 02:02:59 AM · #3 |
I only see one that I didn't think qualified.
I think 'A style and method of design and construction' probably covers the things you are concerned about if you don't get hung up on the fact that it has to be man made or something people can live in.
Of course there is a whole evolutionary vs creationism type debate that should be swiftly sidestepped here... |
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04/02/2002 02:10:31 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by pdb209: I think that all of the photos in this challenge fall into the category of architecture. It is not only restricted to buildings. Here is what Webster lists as one of the meanings of the word "architecture"...
2 a : formation or construction as or as if as the result of conscious act
Computers are formed and constructed, as well as music, as well as blocks and cards. They all have architectural components to them. To limit the definition of the word restricts the creativity of the photographers taking the shot
computers are.
the fucking moon is not.
and, no, statues are not architecture if they are free-standing items.
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04/02/2002 02:16:37 AM · #5 |
go somewhere else leshii, you bring bad vibes here |
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04/02/2002 02:28:11 AM · #6 |
" the fucking moon is not."
Hi leshii, Looks like you are showing us a pretty good shot of Uranis. Thanks.
thats "Your Anus" for the slow ones out there.
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04/02/2002 02:37:16 AM · #7 |
I'm not quite so blunt, usually, but I think Leshii is 100% correct. If sculpture were architecture, then sculptors would be called architects, and if anyone can find some reasonable rationalle for including the moon (!) in this challenge, I'll quit making photos for two weeks.
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04/02/2002 02:42:17 AM · #8 |
Here's how I compared the moon to architecture. The title is architecture 101, which I see as the first or beginning of architecture. According to my beliefs, God created the world, and therefore, of course, the moon. That would make God the first architect and the moon an example or architecture.
I think sculptures are examples of architecture as well. Open your minds, don't limit yourself to buildings. |
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04/02/2002 02:51:46 AM · #9 |
by the way, I agree with GordonMcGregor, I'm not interested in discussing Creationism vs Evolution, I'm just giving my interpretation of the photo. |
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04/02/2002 03:10:02 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Maverick: Here's how I compared the moon to architecture. The title is architecture 101, which I see as the first or beginning of architecture. According to my beliefs, God created the world, and therefore, of course, the moon. That would make God the first architect and the moon an example or architecture.
I think sculptures are examples of architecture as well. Open your minds, don't limit yourself to buildings.
no it wouldn't. and my bad vibes are trying to enlighten some of you people that a dude playing a guitar is not architecture *regardless of what the title says* and that the moon is not architecture *regardless of the religious justification* and that statues of horses and buddha and whatever else are not architecture, they are art or statues or whatever else.
what, in nights shots, should i have taken a picture of something during the day and simply explained that it's night on the other side of the world, man, so like, stop having so many restrictions!
christ.
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04/02/2002 03:33:30 AM · #11 |
There are definitely some that I don't think are architecture... but we're not going to disqualify any pictures for missing the definition of architecture unless you give us your opinions on them!
If you think a picture should not be in this challenge, recommend it for disqualification -- it's the people's voice, really.
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04/02/2002 03:44:48 AM · #12 |
leshii-------go back and read your bio. you might want to revise it.
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04/02/2002 04:16:12 AM · #13 |
again, interpretation is subjective, it would be quite boring if we all saw something the exact same way |
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04/02/2002 04:46:55 AM · #14 |
i pretty much agree with the overall point leshii is trying to make.
however, i think that the votes will prolly take care of things ultimately. i would be very surprised if the pics referred to score very high ...
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04/02/2002 05:22:24 AM · #15 |
Oh, yeah... I'd forgotten about the guitar player. Erm... The budda face is an architectural detail, for sure, though - part of a wall, you see.
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04/02/2002 05:26:59 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Maverick: Here's how I compared the moon to architecture. The title is architecture 101, which I see as the first or beginning of architecture. According to my beliefs, God created the world, and therefore, of course, the moon. That would make God the first architect and the moon an example or architecture.
Mind you, I did say reasonable. ;-) Guess we'll see how many folks from Arkansas there are come voting time.
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04/02/2002 05:43:25 AM · #17 |
What's wrong with Arkansas? I'm not from there. I'm just curious.
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04/02/2002 05:46:12 AM · #18 |
I'd call that reasonable, btw I'm nowhere near Arkansas >= ) not that there is anything wrong with Arkansas, you're leaning towards "he's a hick" i believe, trust me I'm not, nor am I that religious, just trying to offer an explanation for that entry
so.....no more photos from you for 2 weeks! j/k
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04/02/2002 07:02:25 AM · #19 |
Willing to bet the "hicks" for Arkansas (or Missouri, that includes me) are a bit more enlightened and less bigoted than some folks here.
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04/02/2002 07:19:21 AM · #20 |
There are four photos in this challenge that I would say are not photos of something architectural.
First, the two sculptures. Sculpture and architecture are different things. I am no expert on the subject, but I think architecture normally requires for something to be constructed, that is to say, built up by putting together smaller objects. I'm sure some of this does go into sculpture, but for the most part, sculptures are created in an opposite manner.
Second, the moon. If you reason that God is an architect, this is now a nature challenge. You could take a picture of anything you like. And in any case, I think the argument really would make the moon a sculpture.
Finally, the architecture of rock and roll. The what?
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04/02/2002 07:23:16 AM · #21 |
I feel art is what the artist sees.
The moon...maybe they see it as architecture...the foundation of earth as a building has a foundation. I can't speak for that person but I would think the photos in question began with some thought to the photographer as to why they saw or felt it belonged. I don't get the rock and roll one at all...but maybe that person did.
If I was a betting kind of girl...I'd bet the ones that don't seem to fit get lower scores due to the fact...we just don't get it:) |
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04/02/2002 07:45:03 AM · #22 |
Isn't the artist's job to portray whatever it is she sees? If the artist is showing it to the world, and the world doesn't get it, then did the artist fail or did the rest of the world?
By the way, there are lots of people who don't consider the kind of photography that's done here 'art'.
Originally posted by Shiiizzzam: I feel art is what the artist sees.
The moon...maybe they see it as architecture...the foundation of earth as a building has a foundation. I can't speak for that person but I would think the photos in question began with some thought to the photographer as to why they saw or felt it belonged. I don't get the rock and roll one at all...but maybe that person did.
If I was a betting kind of girl...I'd bet the ones that don't seem to fit get lower scores due to the fact...we just don't get it:)
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04/02/2002 07:59:23 AM · #23 |
the arkansas issue: I believe what irae was commenting on when he brought up the Arkansas comment was about some people in Arkansas wanting to ban evolution from textbooks a few yrs ago. (therefore, people from Arkansas might believe the whole creationism reasoning for voting for the moon shot).
most definitely not a personal jibe at people from Arkansas being hicks. |
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04/02/2002 08:01:09 AM · #24 |
Oh, thanks for clearing that up. |
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04/02/2002 08:04:39 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by Shiiizzzam: I feel art is what the artist sees.
Then we might as well not have a topic for the challenge -- everyone can just take a picture of whatever they want and submit it to any challenge they want. |
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