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04/01/2002 09:21:30 AM · #1

Just a question on commenting... could comments be at least a little helpful and constructive instead of hurtful and sarcastic? I mean really! Some of you that comment hurtful things have no room to be so distasteful. This is a place to learn and have fun... is it not?

chicky

Sony DSC-P52

04/01/2002 10:47:25 AM · #2

Yep. I've noticed on a lot of photos that the comments have bee less than constructive.

magnetic9999

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

04/01/2002 10:50:24 AM · #3

there will always be chumps, but you can do your part to counterbalance World Chumpiness by leaving constructive, substantive comments! dont delay, comment today!

:-P

04/01/2002 11:32:09 AM · #4

Take offense to a hurtful remark and you get pounded by everyone else defending them. I know it is hard to do but we have to ignore them. I guess that will have to be my plan of action in the future. I promise you that I will never intentionally make such remarks. You are right though, this should be a fun place where we learn something. I get the feeling that some of these folks think that is a way to have fun.

tomlewis1980

Canon EOS-10D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

04/01/2002 11:46:33 AM · #5

I agree if people are going to criticise a picture they should make there comments constructive and think about what they are going to say before they say it. Having said this I think a little more constructive criticism would benefit everybody. My last two photos have generated little criticism and as I am new to photography, it is nice to know what people like about my photos. But I canâ��t help thinking it would be more helpful to know where I am going wrong.

joshua

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

04/01/2002 12:03:37 PM · #6

university skyline rules!!!

magnetic9999

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

04/01/2002 02:11:46 PM · #7

it seems a little bit ironic though to complain about the quality of the comments one is getting, yet not leave any comments yourself. no comments are worse than poor comments, imo. 8 )

04/01/2002 02:47:46 PM · #8

Originally posted by tomlewis1980:
[i]I agree if people are going to criticise a picture they should make there comments constructive and think about what they are going to say before they say it. Having said this I think a little more constructive criticism would benefit everybody.

In other words, don't just say "this sucks", say "this sucks because....." Simple enough and I can agree to that.

04/02/2002 02:10:55 AM · #9

Originally posted by magnetic9999:
it seems a little bit ironic though to complain about the quality of the comments one is getting, yet not leave any comments yourself. no comments are worse than poor comments, imo. 8 )

Since I am new, I've yet to make a comments on every picture I vote on. But I do try to comment as best I can to as many as possible. Sometimes I just don't care for a picture, but have no real reason to explain or constructive critisism to offer. So therefore I don't leave a comment... personally I'd rather someone not comment on my photo if they don't like it and have nothing constructive to offer me on it.

04/02/2002 02:58:19 AM · #10

I agree. If I can think of a way to make the photo better, I will comment. Most of my comments consist of why I like the photo and questions about the techniques or the photo itself. Maybe I am wrong but if I do not like a photo I will rate it as low as I think it deserves to be rated without a comment. Doesn't that pretty much speak for itself without having to say something that I don't want to say? There are also times that I think it is a good photo yet it doesn't jump out at me. Why leave a comment if you have nothing to say?

04/02/2002 03:01:30 AM · #11

Exactly...

langdon

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

04/02/2002 03:02:34 AM · #12

Originally posted by faerieaeone:
Just a question on commenting... could comments be at least a little helpful and constructive instead of hurtful and sarcastic? I mean really! Some of you that comment hurtful things have no room to be so distasteful. This is a place to learn and have fun... is it not?

I hate to name names, but who is making "hurtful" comments, and what are they saying? Every week there seems to be some post about how the comments being made are no good. Example are never really given, so it makes me wonder if my comments are being misunderstood. I make an effort to say something constructive about each one, though maybe someone could take it as hurtful?

If comments are outright hurtful, then I feel something should be done.

maknbacon

Nikon D50

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Nikon

04/02/2002 03:38:50 AM · #13

This could be more of a suggestion than just a reply. But anyway, what if we had the box to fill in comments but also had some radio buttons to check off. For instance you'd have: Good,Medium, Bad choices for say, contrast, lighting, composition, color quality(unless black and white)etc... then if someone is in a hurry they can at least leave a clue as to what they liked/didn't like about the photo, with a few quick clicks.

Just an idea...

David Ey

Nikon D80

Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D

04/02/2002 04:08:22 AM · #14

I thank each and every one of you for your comments--good or bad.

tomlewis1980

Canon EOS-10D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

04/02/2002 04:08:28 AM · #15

Originally posted by magnetic9999:
it seems a little bit ironic though to complain about the quality of the comments one is getting, yet not leave any comments yourself. no comments are worse than poor comments, imo. 8 )

Thatâ��s true but it takes me long enough to vote on all the submissions, due to my crap connection, and my distinct lack of knowledge of photography isnâ��t helping either. :)

04/02/2002 05:04:59 AM · #16

Originally posted by maknbacon:
This could be more of a suggestion than just a reply. But anyway, what if we had the box to fill in comments but also had some radio buttons to check off. For instance you'd have: Good,Medium, Bad choices for say, contrast, lighting, composition, color quality(unless black and white)etc... then if someone is in a hurry they can at least leave a clue as to what they liked/didn't like about the photo, with a few quick clicks.

Just an idea...

I like that idea! I'm not sure how the guys running the site will like all the extra work, but I do really like the idea.

04/02/2002 05:09:47 AM · #17

Originally posted by langdon:
Originally posted by faerieaeone:
[i]Just a question on commenting... could comments be at least a little helpful and constructive instead of hurtful and sarcastic? I mean really! Some of you that comment hurtful things have no room to be so distasteful. This is a place to learn and have fun... is it not?

I hate to name names, but who is making "hurtful" comments, and what are they saying? Every week there seems to be some post about how the comments being made are no good. Example are never really given, so it makes me wonder if my comments are being misunderstood. I make an effort to say something constructive about each one, though maybe someone could take it as hurtful?

If comments are outright hurtful, then I feel something should be done.
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I'm not sure naming names would be very beneficial. It would probably only start a verbal war that can't be won by anyone. But I will say that the ones that I've seen haven't bothered to come into this forum and post anything in response to my question... so I feel that says alot in itself. They just don't care if they are hurtful and they probably have a "God" complex... you can't win in an argument with someone like that.

04/02/2002 05:35:56 AM · #18

Shannon, you and I are in total agreement on this one. I am not going to name any names because I don't want to rehash old arguments. Langdon, you haven't written anything hurtful that I know of. Constructive critcism is never hurtful when you give it in a helpful way.

magnetic9999

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

04/02/2002 07:07:40 AM · #19

....Originally posted by maknbacon:
This could be more of a suggestion than just a reply. But anyway, what if we had the box to fill in comments but also had some radio buttons to check off. For instance you'd have: Good,Medium, Bad choices for say, contrast, lighting, composition, color quality(unless black and white)etc... then if someone is in a hurry they can at least leave a clue as to what they liked/didn't like about the photo, with a few quick clicks.

Just an idea...

i like this idea too. still, its not *that* hard to leave a little comment : ). even if you only vote 10 images a day, that gives you all week to do em all ......

also, i think there's always a reason 'why' someone doesnt like something, even if you can't immediately articulate it. and i think that really trying to think about the reason you dont much care for, or do much care for, an image, can really put you in touch with your critical thinking skills. here are some sample reasons why one might not like a photo: bad focus, bad exposure, boring subject, uninteresting composition, too far, too close, bad shadows, wacked-out color, coffee spilt on the memory card, lack of outstretched arm, mirror or timer ..... ; )

Reign

04/02/2002 07:26:09 AM · #20

Can we rename "comments" to "feedback"?

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

04/02/2002 08:05:57 AM · #21

maybe this would be helpful:

how to critique

cinnery

Olympus C-700UZ

04/02/2002 08:19:39 AM · #22

Although they are talking about film photography, this is very helpful, especially for us newbies. Thank you for the site GordonMcGregor.