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03/04/2005 05:55:12 PM · #1 |
Paparazzi's can you really call them photographers? To me they just seem like people with a camera out to make a buck at the expence of someone else. I think that what they do is wrong, but I was wondering what you guys thought about them.
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03/04/2005 06:01:08 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by darkornithopter:
Paparazzi's can you really call them photographers? To me they just seem like people with a camera out to make a buck at the expence of someone else. I think that what they do is wrong, but I was wondering what you guys thought about them. |
I recently saw a documentary on that and there was a guy who's been to wars and won awards for his war photography. He got tired of wars and gave up shooting them. Like we all he needs money and he's shooting the celebs coming out of parties. He doesn't enjoy it, but pays his bills. I call him a photographer, a brilliant one too. I am not going to judge anyone based on what the person is doing at any given time without knowing the reasons why. |
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03/04/2005 06:04:20 PM · #3 |
hmm off topic but your Username seems oddly familiar. isnt it the name of a Magic the gathering card?
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03/04/2005 06:06:50 PM · #4 |
look at princess Diana. Yes she was in the public eye but when it comes to being chased by paparazzi i think that is where they have a shift in what is real and what isnt. They get caught up in the moment and people die. It is a very sad thing. The same thing is happening here with Nicole Kidman. Someone planted a listening device in her sydney home. The paparrazi were blamed for it. They were on a current affair (tv show)telling the reporters that they knew when she goes somewhere, what time etc, they even knew that she had dinner with her mum and dad every sunday. Now, i know if it were me being followed i would be doing everything possible to get those critters as far away from me as possible. These 2 paparazzi guys now have a restaining order to stay away from her and her home.
i do understand that when celebrities are in the spotlight they have some sort of duty to smile/pose for pics if they are out but not when it invades someones home, or private life.
Gee i can ramble. :o)
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03/04/2005 06:08:19 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by darkornithopter:
To me they just seem like people with a camera out to make a buck at the expence of someone else. I think that what they do is wrong, but I was wondering what you guys thought about them. |
A buck at the expense of someone else? I say quite the contrary. If photogs stopped shooting celebrities, and people stopped carring, the celebrities wouldn't be millionaires. To take your theory a step further, I think that the fact that a photo of Matt Damon together with Jennifer Lopez (just a hypothetical photo) would sell for as much as it would...but it's the FANS that create the prices. If that stuff didn't sell, no one would shoot it.
It's like a NFL player making 6 million dollars a year -- if the fans didn't pay so much to see the game, he wouldn't be making that much.
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You think what they do is wrong? They're out there trying to make money to feed themselves and their families. They are just capitalizing on something that there is a WIDE market for. If you had the ability and lived near those star-littered places, I'd say you'd be pretty stupid to not capitalize on that opportunity. I'd say people who play the lottery (1 in 500 million chance of winning) are more wrong than the photographers in your case.
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Sure, there are some instances, and when asked, you should probably give people some privacy, but I can see this from both sides. Technically speaking, if you want privacy, get a limo and tinted windows and don't be in public because in public, any one is fair game and their photos can sell and be used under fair use.
Sorry...but they are just as much a photographer as anyone else who owns a camera -- possibly moreso being that they are essentially endangering themselves by shooting people who don't want to be shot. Personally, given the opportunity and the assurance of some decent income, I'd quit my job to do that in a heartbeat.
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03/04/2005 06:10:24 PM · #6 |
Once the new movie or album is out they want to get into every single tv show and they want their photographs in every paper and magazine. One that's over and the money is made, they want to be left alone.
There's 2 sides to this like everything else. |
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03/04/2005 06:15:56 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by xion:
One that's over and the money is made, they want to be left alone. |
That's a small price to pay when you're pulling in millions. Heck, I'll trade my 'privacy' for the ability to pull in millions a year and have a house with a huge gate and 10 cars with tinted windows for privacy. Just show me where to sign.
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03/04/2005 08:06:32 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by xion:
One that's over and the money is made, they want to be left alone. |
That's a small price to pay when you're pulling in millions. Heck, I'll trade my 'privacy' for the ability to pull in millions a year and have a house with a huge gate and 10 cars with tinted windows for privacy. Just show me where to sign. |
honestly i would much rather not be famous and rich if that ment having people constantly shooting me. |
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03/04/2005 08:08:00 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by xion:
Originally posted by darkornithopter:
Paparazzi's can you really call them photographers? To me they just seem like people with a camera out to make a buck at the expence of someone else. I think that what they do is wrong, but I was wondering what you guys thought about them. |
I recently saw a documentary on that and there was a guy who's been to wars and won awards for his war photography. He got tired of wars and gave up shooting them. Like we all he needs money and he's shooting the celebs coming out of parties. He doesn't enjoy it, but pays his bills. I call him a photographer, a brilliant one too. I am not going to judge anyone based on what the person is doing at any given time without knowing the reasons why. |
Ok I guess you have a point there I never thought of it being more of a chore for them, I guess I couldn't see anyone really enjoying it. |
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03/04/2005 08:11:15 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by xion:
One that's over and the money is made, they want to be left alone. |
That's a small price to pay when you're pulling in millions. Heck, I'll trade my 'privacy' for the ability to pull in millions a year and have a house with a huge gate and 10 cars with tinted windows for privacy. Just show me where to sign. |
oh im sure you want the horrid out of focus shot of you stuffing a big mac in your pie hole on the cover of a billion copies of one of those tabloids. But im sure you would have just pulled out of McDonalds in your new Bently convertable....right?????
or will it be the photo of you in your speedo whith a out of shape butt cheek glaring at all of us in the check ot line of the super market.
or is the photo of you next to the alien in the strip bar???
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03/04/2005 08:11:37 PM · #11 |
| Yeah I see what you guys are saying I just don't think I could ever do it atleast I would feel so dirty, like I don't think I could ever take peoples pictures without there premission because people do have there right to privacy no matter how rich and famous they are. I guess its just that I wouldn't be bothered by them so much if they were alittle more polite about it and I am sure there are some paparazzi's that are polite about it, but the ones that arn't just bother me. |
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03/04/2005 08:25:25 PM · #12 |
Like it or not they are photographers. What may be disturbing is that we would like to think of all photographers as being decent people, sorry it just isn̢۪t so. But photographers they are by any normal definition of what a photographer is. In fact I have a pretty broad definition of what a photographer is, it is a person who is taking photographs, even if they are just using a disposable box camera.
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