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03/04/2003 08:26:34 AM · #1
OK, calling on the vast knowledge base here....

Does anybody out there know of a printer similar to the Epson Stylus C82 (which uses DuraBrite inks) that prints at a size larger than 8.5x11?

Here's the need: we need a printer here at work that an artist can create a digital painting in Photoshop, print it out, and then do some real world over-painting on that digital print without destroying what was printed. According to one of our artists who does this with his printer at home, the Epson with the DuraBrite inks does the job. (I believe he uses the C80...) However, we'd like to be able to create works bigger than 8.5x11 -- 13x19 would be great, but smaller would be acceptable.

As usual with almost any company, the less expensive (without betraying quality) the better.

Thanks in advance folks....

Message edited by author 2003-03-04 13:27:30.
03/04/2003 08:28:20 AM · #2
epson makes a line of photo printers that print up to 11x17 but i don't remember what the model numbers are...
03/04/2003 08:31:06 AM · #3
The problem is, as I'm learning, that they don't support the DuraBrite inks which appears to be the key to the situation with the particular printer our artist uses for his own work. Epson actually makes printers up to 13x19, just not using the right inks.

Message edited by author 2003-03-04 13:31:41.
03/04/2003 08:39:23 AM · #4
I am actually looking for a new printer and have seen that the Epson 2200 is suppose to have water proof ink and it is archival for 75 years. It prints up to 13 x44 inches. It is expensive and the 44" printing is not avilable on Mac yet if that is what you use. I am looking at the Canon S9000...prints 13 x 19...the ink is archival for 25 years and I would think water "resistant." They do make waterproof inks, just not sure which companies...put in waterproof printer ink for a search and you shold get good results.
03/04/2003 09:20:47 AM · #5
Not sure I entirely understand the additional processing you are planning to do, but you can hand colour prints from an Epson printer, if you use the right sort of watercolour papers.

I'd suggest emailing the folks at Inkjet Art. They have a free advice line you can call or email for printing advice (with some guidelines on being brief(!))

Details on the advice line.

They were helpful the last time I contacted them.
03/04/2003 10:16:29 AM · #6
Thanks Gordon, I'll give them a shot.

It's a little bit more involved (as I understand) than just hand coloring. He basically uses the print as a canvas -- it's a starting point, but not really close to a finished product. I believe it gets a lot more paint added to it (underpainting, fine strokes, over coat, etc etc etc). Not being an artist, I didn't pay a LOT of attention to his demonstration I remember just enough to understand why he needed what he was asking for.

Personally, I (and most of the artists here) just need something that will give decent looking proofs -- they don't even have to be perfect in terms of color tones. Anything would be better than the color laser we have right now. *blech* But if we can get something that will serve his needs too, than that's great.
03/04/2003 10:20:14 AM · #7
Something that might be interesting to try are the various inkjet prepared canvases you can get too - I've run a few prints through on that media and it is pretty spectacular with the right image (although it is a pain to work with)

I have no idea if the canvas is then useable afterwards for painting though. Not sure if the coatings cause issues.
03/04/2003 10:27:54 AM · #8
I have an Epson Photo 2200 printer. It prints to 13x15 with no problems at all. It does print on canvas as well. It was expensive (around $800), but it has more than paid for itself, as I do all my portrait printing myself. The ink is guaranteed to last 75 years on the lower setting, 95 years on Portrait quality. It is a bit of an ink hog, but the cartridges are fairly cheap. I use a standard inkjet printer for proofs and documents, and only use the Stylus for my portraits. It does have borderless printing as well, and prints on just about anything. Oh - and yes, you can color them using special watercolor inks, and print setting must be on portrait quality. Hope that helps!
03/04/2003 10:38:47 AM · #9
Tara, I am so glad that you posted about the 2200. I have been seriously considering purchasing it, but was holding off until I could either see the results in person, or I talked to someone who has used it. I think you've made up my mind...now to find the $$$$$$$!!
03/04/2003 10:52:30 AM · #10
I have had my Epson 2200 for several months now and the printouts are the most photolike on glossiy photo paper I have ever seen. The 2200 uses the same Ultrachrome Ink Set that the Epson 7600, 9600 and 10000 Pro printers do, the inks are pigment inks archivale and water proof just like the C80 and the newer C82.

Message edited by author 2003-03-04 15:54:11.
03/04/2003 11:57:25 AM · #11
I would love to get the Epson 2200...but until it is TOTALLY compatible with my Mac OS 10.2.4 (it will not print the up to 13x44" and that is one big selling point for me and not gonna shuck out an extra $200 without it), I am gonna have to have still deeply consider the Canon i9100
03/04/2003 12:31:57 PM · #12
I do all my printing in OS 9.2 with all the features that make the 2200 so great.
03/04/2003 12:59:01 PM · #13
Originally posted by daysez:

I do all my printing in OS 9.2 with all the features that make the 2200 so great.


hmmmm...did not know that...but I hate 9.2 now. (C: eats up all my memory fo 10.2, which I love so dearly!! Thanks for the info!!

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