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 11/10/2004 11:49:09 AM · #1
I was suprised by the results of this challenge, not to say that the winning shots weren't well done, but none of the top three are particularly bizarre. I thought there were plenty of entries that met the challenge of bizarreness *and* had quality going for them, why did such normal subjects win?
 11/10/2004 11:51:03 AM · #2
the cloud structure in 1 was bizarre, the balancing rock in 2 was bizarre............... but 3 hmmmmmmmmm very beautiful shot

thats all i have to say

oh and number 4 natural symmetry should have ribboned
ok....... now thats all i have to say for real this time

Message edited by author 2004-11-10 16:53:09.
 11/10/2004 11:58:03 AM · #3
I liked 1, it was bizarre cloud formation, but I guess people have different ideas of what is bizarre.

NOt over impressed by any really, except 1.

But what do I know? I'm always at the bottom looking up!
 11/10/2004 12:05:23 PM · #4
I guess a lot of people took this to be a Free Study. The same is likely to happen with Calendar.
 11/10/2004 12:14:59 PM · #5
"Photograph something natural that makes you laugh or wonder in amazement."
That's part of the description.
 11/10/2004 12:17:11 PM · #6
I think the point is that we are now left to wonder in amazement that some of these entries were judged to meet that criteria.
 11/10/2004 12:19:41 PM · #7
O' well, can we ever find a solution :)
 11/10/2004 12:21:13 PM · #8
I didn't particfipate due to not having nothing bizarre, but it seems i should've participate because i didn't see so many things as bizarre as i thought they would be... I guess people tend to let the landscape pictures win. This week we have a great example... I guess you can just take a picture of some nice sunset and your half way to the ribbon. but thats just my opinion.
 11/10/2004 12:30:08 PM · #9
You gotta wonder how that huge rock in picture number 2 balances there like that. Seems bizarre enough to me and apparently bizarre enough to the majority anyway, otherwise it wouldn't have gotten second. To each his own though.
 11/10/2004 12:54:24 PM · #10
Originally posted by Discraft:
I didn't particfipate due to not having nothing bizarre, but it seems i should've participate because i didn't see so many things as bizarre as i thought they would be... I guess people tend to let the landscape pictures win. This week we have a great example... I guess you can just take a picture of some nice sunset and your half way to the ribbon. but thats just my opinion.


I agree! As someone that only has time to enter select challenges I sometimes wonder how the voting gets so out of hand. I did not enter this challenge and it's a good thing. I think it's pretty upsetting that something so normal could win when there so many more bizarre shots taken. I don't even know what to think about this. I personally don't think a balancing rock beats a duck that looks like it's half chicken. IMHO the results of this challenge makes a mockery of what the challenges are supposed to be about. Now, before I get brow beaten to death I will say it's every persons right to judge for themselves what is bizarre and what is not, being if they enter or just vote. And while i'm not discounting the value of the opinions of all the people who made it possible for these 3 shots to beat out the (again imho) shots more deserving.

I will add again that I am not the authority on what is bizarre and what is not, but to me these are obviously not that bizarre (not to discredit the talent involved in creating these technically sound, and quite beautiful shots) I just don't think they came even close to being bizarre and that is not only disheartening, but un-nerving as well

Cheers and congrats to the winners for great landscapes, but a giant chop to the throat of those who took the time to find something actually bizarre.

-joe

*protects his head from the bounty of replies about to be unleashed*
 11/10/2004 01:00:43 PM · #11
Most of the top shots went for "wonder in amazement" over bizarre, and that's fair. There was some confusion from the start. I blame the idiot that wrote the challenge suggestion. WWYT?

EDIT- (I'm not picking on anybody... I wrote the suggestion). ;-P

Message edited by author 2004-11-10 18:03:01.
 11/10/2004 01:04:55 PM · #12
I also thought the same thing about the winners not really being "Bizarre". Were they nice shots? absolutely! Stunning, even. Bizarre? No, not in my book anyway.

If you read some of the comments on these photos, voters even admit they don't see what is bizarre about the photo, but then they go on to say they liked it anyway so they gave it a 9 (or 8, or 10). I think a vote and an admission like this is a direct slap in the face to those who actually seek something that is more fitting for the challenge (subjective as it may be).

Why have challenges? Maybe DPC should be just like so many other sites with a "free study" 100% of the time.

Bill

edit: corrected typos

Message edited by author 2004-11-10 18:06:24.
 11/10/2004 01:05:30 PM · #13
I'm sure glad to here some of these posts. I am an Am-a-tuer and this my my first ever entry and placed thirteenth, so I don't have any right to complain. and believe me I'm not. I was just having the same feelings and hoped that it wasn't just me. I know I won't do near as well in macro but mayby get more constuctive critisism than in bizarre.
 11/10/2004 01:08:11 PM · #14
Then you would just see landscape photos winning the challenges. I sometimes feel a little disappointed but life goes on. The are really great photos but in my opinion not for that challenge. And i did not participate, next time all just but something up to say i but something there. Is it on the challenge theme, who cares its nice. With no disrespect to the people who got those ribbons or not.
 11/10/2004 01:08:35 PM · #15
Originally posted by airatic:
I was suprised by the results of this challenge, not to say that the winning shots weren't well done, but none of the top three are particularly bizarre. I thought there were plenty of entries that met the challenge of bizarreness *and* had quality going for them, why did such normal subjects win?


I hear ya. People voted the opposite of what I would've. The third place photo would've gotten a 1 from me since I can't give out zeros (for not being the slightest bit bizarre or quirky). #3 is a fantastic shot to print, to hang or to enter in a relevent challenge.
:-)

Edit: Xion makes a good point in his first post, I never read the challenge details.

Message edited by author 2004-11-10 18:09:25.
 11/10/2004 01:10:31 PM · #16
I had several comments that satd they could not see the face in my ‘bizarre Nature’ entry. I was wondering if you were able to see it. I have circled it and it’s in a profile view. One persons comment pretty much sums up what kind of face to look for [goblin].
11/10/2004 01:16:30 PM · #17
Originally posted by SDW65:
I had several comments that satd they could not see the face in my ‘bizarre Nature’ entry. I was wondering if you were able to see it. I have circled it and it’s in a profile view. One persons comment pretty much sums up what kind of face to look for [goblin].


yes i saw it right off, with no trouble, and thought it was a great shot that meet the challenge !!
 11/10/2004 01:17:28 PM · #18
With all the feed back on pictures that people do not feel fit the challenge on the Bizarre Nature and on other challenges why not have a disqualification area for not meeting the theme of that challenge.
 11/10/2004 01:20:14 PM · #19
When considering DQ for not meeting the challenge, there's the title and description to consider. If DQ is the way to go with title only, then 90% of the images in the Macro challenge are up for DQ.
 11/10/2004 01:23:13 PM · #20
Not taking offense, but I just want to point out that no one did comment on mine saying that they didn't think it was bizarre but were still giving it a 9 or 10. I did go through and check to make sure.

As for all of your unhappiness or starting to think that no one cares about the challenges, I will gladly give back my ribbon if that will make you all happy. I always shoot for the challenge. And I personally feel that every sunset can offer something bizzare. I know I will never see another cloud formation just like that again.
 11/10/2004 01:28:41 PM · #21
As far as the bizarre thing goes... I took my cue from the line "Mother Nature has a sense of humor,". I know it was a hotly debated topic during the voting, the same way the whole macro thing is going right now. Yes, the pictures that won were beautiful pictures - stunning - lovely - breathtaking... but not bizarre.

If it doesn't meet the challenge, it should not earn a high score, regardless of how perfect it is. However, if there's room for interpretation in the challenge, the limits will always be stretched and there will always be complainers ("explainers") who will be more than willing to tell you why their picture is acceptable after all.

My two cents :)
 11/10/2004 01:29:16 PM · #22
Originally posted by SDW65:
I had several comments that satd they could not see the face in my ‘bizarre Nature’ entry. I was wondering if you were able to see it. I have circled it and it’s in a profile view. One persons comment pretty much sums up what kind of face to look for [goblin].


I did see it, after I looked hard. I am probably one of the comments that made you post in the forum. I think this is super bizarre and quite freaky, but like I said in my comment. I think alot of people could have easily missed it and given you an undeserved low score. STill awesome in my book!

joe
 11/10/2004 01:31:18 PM · #23
Originally posted by G4Ds:
Not taking offense, but I just want to point out that no one did comment on mine saying that they didn't think it was bizarre but were still giving it a 9 or 10. I did go through and check to make sure.

As for all of your unhappiness or starting to think that no one cares about the challenges, I will gladly give back my ribbon if that will make you all happy. I always shoot for the challenge. And I personally feel that every sunset can offer something bizzare. I know I will never see another cloud formation just like that again.


I don't think anyone begrudges you your ribbon, they're just fired up that the top three weren't more humorously bizarre than wonderously amazing :)
 11/10/2004 01:34:55 PM · #24
Originally posted by G4Ds:
Not taking offense, but I just want to point out that no one did comment on mine saying that they didn't think it was bizarre but were still giving it a 9 or 10. I did go through and check to make sure.

As for all of your unhappiness or starting to think that no one cares about the challenges, I will gladly give back my ribbon if that will make you all happy. I always shoot for the challenge. And I personally feel that every sunset can offer something bizzare. I know I will never see another cloud formation just like that again.


For me any sunset is different but not bizarre. If you see aurora burealis everyday it becomes unbizarre to you. Everyday has a new sunset but not bizarre one. I really love your picture and i don't want to the ribbon for nothing i just am commenting on what i think. and hope not to offend anyone with my opinion. but great job.
 11/10/2004 01:41:06 PM · #25
Originally posted by G4Ds:
Not taking offense, but I just want to point out that no one did comment on mine saying that they didn't think it was bizarre but were still giving it a 9 or 10. I did go through and check to make sure.

As for all of your unhappiness or starting to think that no one cares about the challenges, I will gladly give back my ribbon if that will make you all happy. I always shoot for the challenge. And I personally feel that every sunset can offer something bizzare. I know I will never see another cloud formation just like that again.


I don't think you should return the ribbon, after all the masses gave it to you as is the general idea of a contest. I think this thread is more questioning what was going through the minds of the voters while voting, not particularly on the person who entered. As I said before it's your right to submit it, and their right to vote it a winner, and our right to wonder what the hell they were thinking. sort of a three sides to every story, yours, mine, and since there is no truth to photography (i.e. Perception is everything) theirs. While I doubt anyone up in arms about the voting outcome would actually want you to return what you've earned (by pleasing the masses which is damn hard if you ask me) They just want to express their arguements about how something so normal (as a sunset, just for example purpose) could beat something like the face in the tree. It's almost angering that others don't see this and I think that is where this forum lays. It lays on votes, not the legal (or illegal for anyone thinking DQ) of such entries.

Some people scream DQ, and while I see there point (I'm thinking they believe they would have done better had your photo not been 'in their way' so to speak) I have learned alot in the last 4 or 5 months about what is appealing and what isn't (to the general population), bizarre nature probably wasn't the most fool proof challenge we've seen (compared to things like,, music, B&W etc.)but I would hate to have entered and been DQ'd because someone didn't think it was bizarre enough.

-joe

Message edited by author 2004-11-10 18:41:40.
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