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08/05/2002 03:43:59 AM · #1 |
I think this will be a much harder challenge than "Something Old". Old things are easy to find and I had lots of different ideas for that challenge. But to photograph something new it really needs some thinking.
So far I only have two ideas, one of which I don't have access to but I don't want to spoil the idea here. I think others will have a big chance to submit one of their "sooo cute" photos and win with that. The other is too much cliche and will probably submitted several times.
Hmm now I so vaguely adumbrated my ideas. Do you think it is good or bad to post ideas here? I think it "spoils" the idea, because others might become discouraged to shoot it.
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08/05/2002 03:49:12 AM · #2 |
I personally like the discussions of what to shoot, because it gives me ideas sometimes. As for discouraging people from submitting, 2 things come to mind.
1) I haven''t seen the ''cliche shot'' discussed turn into a cliche shot in the challenge.
2) People may decide to be more creative about how to shoot such a shot to avoid the risk of cliche.
-Steve
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/5/2002 7:48:57 AM. |
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08/05/2002 04:01:50 AM · #3 |
I think many of us are dreading a proliferation of babies, kittens, puppies and flower buds in this challenge. Hopefully that means it won't happen.... please! I have this feeling that we'll see at least one photo featuring a baby or child's new teeth. Perhaps some things still in their packaging...
I say photograph whatever you want and title it "New Compared to the Age of the Universe". :P Newness is relative, you see.
I honestly have no idea right now what I'm going to photograph. |
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08/05/2002 04:16:58 AM · #4 |
Ok, my two ideas were a photo of a newborn child ("new life") and one of the dawn of the sun ("new day").
Of course it depends on the photographic execution but I think I would vote them quite high because they fit to the challenge very good.
The thing about the relativity of age is very true. Almost philosophical ;-)
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08/05/2002 04:30:07 AM · #5 |
Ok, my two ideas were a photo of a newborn child ("new life") and one of the dawn of the sun ("new day").
Of course it depends on the photographic execution but I think I would vote them quite high because they fit to the challenge very good.
The only problem is that both ideas are terribly cliched, and would have to be technically superb and/or artistically creative to get good votes from me.
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/5/2002 8:29:42 AM.
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08/05/2002 04:31:59 AM · #6 |
Does it really matter what the subject is...if it doesn't hit most folks over the head like a commercial for Chevy trucks or as obvious as a Beer commercial it won't fly :-)
For instance, say you take a photo of a wedding of two middle aged folks...
Thats something new but I GUARANTEE a lot of folks will score you poorly and say "That couple is too old" or because the "Idea" of a new life together is not a 'NEW OBJECT" it will get killed for that.
Or how about a teenager getting their drivers license, or how about a baptism?
But if you have more than one subject in the photo watch out..people will get confused as to which is the "NEW" thing they are supposed to vote on.
How about a mother and a baby where you focus on "gasp" THE NEW MOTHER!!! I bet you get 20 comments saying the baby is out of focus or needed to be the center subject.
I guess my point....Shoot what ever YOU want. Because long after the electronic ribbon is come and gone you will still have the cool photo to look back on. If kittens or babies or whatever float your boat...do it :-)
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08/05/2002 04:34:47 AM · #7 |
Somehow I guessed what this new challenge would be... Pretty funny.
In the meantime, my "something old" is getting my lowest score ever! LOL!
I knew it wasn't great, but...
Oh well. :-)
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08/05/2002 04:46:26 AM · #8 |
You see..the trouble with ideas like old, new, corporate, fear or other SUBJECTIVE things is it has a wide range of lattitude of what it can mean to different people.
What is new to you may be old to me.
What scares me may be funny to you.
Like this something old.
It will be interesting to see if it comes down to the person who came up with the oldest, most delapidated looking photo. The oldest most delapidated looking subject. The prettiest scenary with something old.
The easist thing to classify as physically being on the earth the longest. Etc, etc.......
What I find great for a subject interests me. The number one hurdle. After that if I get a great score I guess others agree. If I get a not so great score (not based on photo technique but just the subject matter) that makes sense kinda as I look at the world a little tilted anyway...:-)
Maybe your score says you are a little tilted Karen..:-)
It's sorta cool aint it ;-)
Originally posted by Karen Bryan:
Somehow I guessed what this new challenge would be... Pretty funny.
In the meantime, my "something old" is getting my lowest score ever! LOL!
I knew it wasn't great, but...
Oh well. :-)
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08/05/2002 04:54:32 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by manic:
The only problem is that both ideas are terribly cliched, and would have to be technically superb and/or artistically creative to get good votes from me.
To me it doesn't matter if the subject is cliched. A photo always must be somehow technically and artistically appealing to get good votes.
A non-cliched subject can be as much a boring photo as a cliched one.
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08/05/2002 04:56:11 AM · #10 |
A non-cliched subject can be as much a boring photo as a cliched one.
Indeed, but originality is always a bonus ;o)
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08/05/2002 04:57:43 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by hokie:
You see..the trouble with ideas like old, new, corporate, fear or other SUBJECTIVE things ....Maybe your score says you are a little tilted Karen..:-)
It's sorta cool aint it ;-)
Originally posted by Karen Bryan:
[i]Somehow I guessed what this new challenge would be... Pretty funny.
In the meantime, my "something old" is getting my lowest score ever! LOL!
I knew it wasn't great, but...
Oh well. :-)
[/i]
Tilted is good.
Hokie, you are right, (and you are funny!) - Maybe my "something old" isn't old enough.... or maybe the photo just bites. ;o)
Oh well. I'll just keep taking my camera out, and get more "tilted" ideas burned into some pixels.
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08/05/2002 05:10:54 AM · #12 |
Well, my photo is of a pretty obvious subject, with an obvious title, and it's getting a decent score (by my standards). But every comment mentions a particular thing about my photo, and most say they don't like it. But I love that aspect of it. I'm so used to this though... my most common response to people's comments on my photos is "but I like it that way!". Subjectivity, you have to love it... Otherwise you'll go insane I guess.
Stephan, when it comes to cliches like babies and sunrises/sunsets, etc., my attitude has always been that if it's a good photo, then it's a good photo. But unfortunately a lot of people choose that type of subject matter for its natural appeal and don't bother to take a good photo. I think the "Something New" challenge will encourage this kind of approach. |
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08/05/2002 05:30:41 AM · #13 |
| This seems terribly familiar... 'cliche is bad for scores, cleche is good for scores, I score them bad, it does not matter to me'... I am guessing this is the same conversdation that happens most weeks. |
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08/05/2002 05:40:18 AM · #14 |
hehe, suprisingly the subject matter I was going to use hasn't been discussed :)
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08/05/2002 07:41:11 AM · #15 |
| Well, I guess this means I have to go out and buy something new to photograph. Such a sacrifice! : ' P |
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08/05/2002 07:41:28 AM · #16 |
Hmmm... since we can never get past the discussion of 'cliche' every week, let me make a list of what I think will be cliche:
Newborn babies
Flower Buds
New Toys
New Shoes
New Cars
New Pets
New Brides/Grooms
New Clothes (tags intact)
We obviously discuss 'cliche' for a reason huh.... BTW- any photo with 'NEW' in the title will be cliche also :)
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08/05/2002 08:32:58 AM · #17 |
| So you are saying you would not score a newborn baby, riding a puppy, holding baby blue tulips in the back of a brand new car well? |
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08/05/2002 08:35:59 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Agamemnon:
So you are saying you would not score a newborn baby, riding a puppy, holding baby blue tulips in the back of a brand new car well?
I would give this a 10. (If it was well done) |
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08/05/2002 08:41:28 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Agamemnon:
So you are saying you would not score a newborn baby, riding a puppy, holding baby blue tulips in the back of a brand new car well?
I would score it poorly if it was a snapshot.. If the photo had any artistic value or high impact value, I would score it well...
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08/05/2002 08:44:58 AM · #20 |
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08/05/2002 08:56:33 AM · #21 |
Even if you look at this week's chalenge, you'll find several photos of the same type of subject...cliche...perhaps. Yet one or two have what it takes to be a good photograph through composition, lighting, technical aspects. Those get high scores from me, regardless of how many junk cars I've judged earlier in the challenge.
(Sorry to anyone who has submitted a photo of an old car. This was only an example.) |
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08/05/2002 09:10:02 AM · #22 |
I agree. And its hard not to (mentally at least) wind up picking a favorite "cliche" photo when you have so many sort through.
In the end, though, I try to ask myself: "If this was the only old car (example only, no offense) photo I had seen this week, would I rate it as high? higher?" Just to try and ward off the effects of having judged so many.
I guess I''m saying I try and judge them on their own merits, regardless of the freshness of the content. Though it does make things more difficult.
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/5/2002 1:09:44 PM. |
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08/05/2002 09:13:51 AM · #23 |
And I almost submitted an old truck : ? ) I personally don't really care about the so-called cliche shots. I believe that in photography originality comes from the execution of a shot. An interesting photo is interesting because of composition, colors, contrast, detail, and all sorts of other things that have little to do with the subject. I often enjoy seeing how common objects are photographed by good photographers.
The topic of cliche photos is now cliche.
T |
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08/05/2002 09:40:36 AM · #24 |
I think you have to go cliche on this site...Otherwise half the people don't get it and go "Huh?" and give you a 2 or 3...
You make it a slap in the face obvious "A newborn! Duh" type picture and you get 7's and 8's...
I definitely did "Something Old" with quiet a bit of originality...And out of 5 comments 2 people have gotten the picture. I think I will appreciate those people quiet a bit more than the whole rating system :) it's good to know there are others who think like you...in weird strange and backwards ways... |
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08/05/2002 10:03:47 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by stephan:
I think this will be a much harder challenge than "Something Old". Old things are easy to find and I had lots of different ideas for that challenge. But to photograph something new it really needs some thinking.
I actually think that i have more ideas for something new. I have about 4 ideas so far. For something old, i didn't take the picture until Sunday afternoon at 4:30 or 5. I wasn't even going to submit untill i was told about this idea! I hope it does better than its doing now...
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