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02/01/2003 08:51:36 PM · #1 |
Is the ability to differentiate between all colors a problem for any DPC members? How should a photograph be composed / processed to be effective for members with this affliction? Should images be black and white? High contrast? Any thoughts about this?
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02/01/2003 09:03:20 PM · #2 |
I know people who have problems with red/browns, blue/purple, yellow/green, etc., and shades that are close to other colors, but overall I don't think it makes much difference. They still see what they are used to seeing and they like what they like. If anything I would say that they are less likely to pick up on over-saturation.
But, like I said, they are used to the world as they see it, so there is no need to compensate for them.
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02/01/2003 09:49:54 PM · #3 |
| I know a colour blind guy. He thought the colours in this photo of mine were "neato". I can't really find a pattern in the way he responds to my photos. He REALLY hates black and white, but that's probably not a colour blindness thing :). |
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02/01/2003 09:59:07 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by lisae:
I know a colour blind guy. He thought the colours in this photo of mine were "neato". I can't really find a pattern in the way he responds to my photos. He REALLY hates black and white, but that's probably not a colour blindness thing :). |
Well, that's a really "neato photo," nice colors. I guess there are also different levels of colorblindness and certain people have trouble with certain colors only, so it's really hard to classify.
Also, I don't like the term "color blind." Most people are not blind to color, they just have slight variations in their perceptions, so I perfer to call them "color impaired," "color challenged," or something like that. If somebody is truely "color blind" then they can only see black and white.
I can't imagine why your friend doesn't like black and white, since there would be no conflict for him.
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02/01/2003 10:29:35 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by RLS:
Is the ability to differentiate between all colors a problem for any DPC members? How should a photograph be composed / processed to be effective for members with this affliction? Should images be black and white? High contrast? Any thoughts about this? |
I am afflicted with a manageable level of colorblindness, and have learned to intellectualize ways around it. I have problems with the perception of certain colors in mid-tones. For example: a light pink and a pure white, if I don’t concentrate, appear exactly the same. My photo "first snow since 1956" is quite symptomatic of this condition: I don’t see the pinkness in that image that several critics refer to.
Black and white is a fine way around the problem. Find a set of colors you perform better with (ask for advice and critics from “normal” viewers). I do better with earth, wood and stone group of colors at the condition I leave the red color slider pretty much alone.
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02/02/2003 02:58:14 AM · #6 |
You're right, those colours ar neato! :) Interesting topic, I never thought how colour blind people would view my pictures, especilly since I really like bright colours to get impact.
Originally posted by lisae:
I know a colour blind guy. He thought the colours in this photo of mine were "neato". I can't really find a pattern in the way he responds to my photos. He REALLY hates black and white, but that's probably not a colour blindness thing :). |
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02/02/2003 03:15:24 AM · #7 |
I'm red-green colorblind. Basically it means some shades of reds and greens look similar. I've had occasions where something looks orange but it's really green :D It really isn't that big of a deal, you sorta learn to work around it. What really sucks is how people ask you "what color is this..."
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02/02/2003 07:50:23 AM · #8 |
I have a red-green defect as well. It usually manifests as an inability to see the red component of a color, so light blue and lavender are similar, as are some blues and purples, or greens and browns.
Since the tonal values are similar, I will sometimes end up with a good contrast range but a weird color cast as with my "In The Road" entry. It's usually more a problem for others judging my photos than for me to judge others' photos. I will also sometimes intentionally markedly distort colors when I can't get something that looks "right" or photo-realistic, as in my entry for the Fear Challenge.
In my graphic arts work, I was taught to depend on the densitomiter ("Info") readings in Photoshop, not the screen display, if I'm attempting any color correction or enhancement.
Approximately 10% of males have some sort of color vision "defect," but fewer than one in a thousand for women (although I had an aunt who was color-blind), so this is a more commmon problem than many realize. But, we ALL see "color" differently, so I think it's best to just prepare your photos they way they look best to you. If someone wants to order a custom print with punchier blues or softer greens, I'll just make 'em one! |
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02/02/2003 08:30:32 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Approximately 10% of males have some sort of color vision "defect," but fewer than one in a thousand for women (although I had an aunt who was color-blind) |
That's because colour blindness is carried on the Y chromosome. Apparently there's a really, really rare condition women can have that is related to colour blindness, but it really means they have extra sensitivity to colours between red and green! They're called tetrachromats. |
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02/02/2003 09:02:28 AM · #10 |
The correct term is color deficiant. I am Color Blind ah I mean color deficiant. Our brains work a little bit differently. We are not blind to certain colors they are just interpreted differently. This is a gene thing and is found on the male Y chromosome. It almost worked against me when I went to get a job. They did not want anyone working in the medical laboratory who was color blind. I told them that it is not that I can not see color. It is just a different color. The reactions still take place you can still see the reactions your mind just interprets them into a different color. We are not blind in any sense of the word, matter of fact there are things that we can see that most people can not. Army uses us to spot people in Camoflauge because it stands out to people who have color deficiency. In photography it can be a little problem, but I never noticed it. Have a wonderful day.
That is just an afterthought,
John (TurboTech) |
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02/02/2003 09:17:06 AM · #11 |
| I too am part of the 10% of the male population known as "shade deficient". It does tend to make color that much more of a challenge until I remember as someone pointed out earlier that we may ALL see things a bit differently anyway. The main thing is that since most monitors are no where near properly calibrated and people will be looking at your photo in innumerable lighting combinations and states of mind then just go with what you think is the best and have a good time with what you're doing. |
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