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vawendy

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05/20/2014 05:12:56 AM · #51

Originally posted by HarveyG:

I saw this as a Guns challenge. Not a Gun challenge.

There are lots and lots of guns in the challenge. If the challenge was "gun", only one person could have entered the challenge. I wonder how that one person would have scored? :)

jgirl57

05/20/2014 05:27:55 AM · #52

:-))

JakeKurdsjuk

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05/20/2014 06:04:23 AM · #53

Originally posted by NiallOTuama:

I'm pretty sure Harvey was joking...

Perhaps. But when you see the way some folks score things you never know. Not knowing Harvey (yet), my apologies if my comments were taken personally. Sometimes you just need to get something off your chest. I watched a score plummet yesterday in 3 consecutive votes - which any kid who actually learned math could calculate were a pair of 1's and a 2. While I don't thump my chest and claim to be an artist, I do know what a "bad photograph" is, and if that's all I had I wouldn't have entered it. And I can't help but wonder how I get no votes for 12 hours, and then 3 consecutive uncharacteristically horrible votes in the span of an hour. So while I'll stop short of crying foul or cheat, I will say that I find the voting system here overly arbitrary, and wonder how and why it is I might want to continue participating when comments and critiques are only given by roughly 6-7% of voters, so understanding why something is "bad" or "good" is impossible? Sorry for the rant, but when you invest time and energy into something that carries a bit of yourself in it, it would be nice to be able to understand the meaning behind the holes poked in it.

NiallOTuama

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05/20/2014 06:17:13 AM · #54

Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

Send me a PM with the name of your image and I'll leave you an honest comment. I have already voted.

RyanW

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05/20/2014 06:20:32 AM · #55

i didn't enter this, but if i had i'd have copied the silhouetted arms cocked image and titled it "the gun show".
i gave an average score of 5.3 on this challenge and i commented on a handful of images that caught my eye.
i didn't vote "politically" but i do think that there is a disproportinate love of guns in certain human cultures. i think it's a fantastic tool that made life easier by making the procurement of food stuffs from wildlife easier to manage and more abundant, giving more plentiful access to red meat and furs for clothing in an era and area where that was the difference between life and death.
i think that they still have a place in the world, but that place is not in the hands of every man, woman and youngster able to hold one.
i think that some of the entries presented here are incredibly detailed machines that have their own beauty, and some of them are akin to a lump of metal that causes a small explosion to hurl a smaller lump of metal into another human being for no valid reason. and most entries fall somewhere in the middle.

so, for those who say that people low voted because they don't like guns or they voted on political leanings, that's not always the case, some people just are not gun fanatics and we'll vote on each image in the challenge as we see fit to do. to borrow a quote from a very vocal NRA member, "it's our god-given right to do so".

HarveyG

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05/20/2014 08:09:46 AM · #56

Niall was right, it was tongue in cheek.
However, those who prefer to expound the virtues of the English language to me, go right ahead.
It's not as if Americanese is more correct than English. Color/Colour/Tomato/Tomatoe whatever! It's not a spelling mistake. It's a direct request to photograph Guns. Not a Gun. Guns.
Simply my take on why everyone is getting poor scores and that coupled with I'm sure the dislike of firearms in general here, and I have been reading these forums long enough to know that nudes, guns, religion, sexism, racism and homophobia are massive topics here. One of the longest running forum threads is based on Gay Rights.

Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by HarveyG:
I saw this as a Guns challenge. Not a Gun challenge.

There are lots and lots of guns in the challenge. If the challenge was "gun", only one person could have entered the challenge. I wonder how that one person would have scored? :)

Wendy That's just disingenuous :) The challenge is aimed at each individual photographer to "create an image of Guns", not at the collective photographing many individual one off Gun images.
You can spin it whichever way you want. I am not voting on the whole, I am voting on individual images. Using your analogy I cannot blanket give the entire set of images a 7 for example because there are 70+ guns represented. It's not a representation challenge or else everyone would get the blue. Silly.

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