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12/19/2012 07:38:38 AM · #1
Just voted on a challenge for the first time, and it was a lot harder than I thought it would be.
I'm not sure if I am happy with the way I went about it. Not very many comments for one.

Here's the thing. There were some photos I felt were really good, but didn't fit the title or represent the subject well, then there were others that represented really well, but lacked in technical merit.

How far do we take the commenting on challenges? Do we just let out first impressions whether negative or not. Are we critiquing? or did I handle things just fine by not saying much, and keeping it light?

I think I have some forum reading to do. lol I should have been a serious lurker before joining, instead of just jumping in (I bet you NEVER here that here lmbo)

Is there any specific guidelines to follow? If so, please lead me to them
12/19/2012 07:47:03 AM · #2
Voting Guidelines

Requirements

You must:

comply with the DPChallenge Terms of Use.
submit any disqualification requests as soon as you suspect a rule violation, but no later than seven days after the challenge results are posted.
vote on at least 20% of the entries in a challenge. If you vote on less than 20%, your votes will not count.
rate entries on a scale of 1 to 10. A score of 1 is a âbadâ photo, and a score of 10 is a âgoodâ photo
You should:

recommend an entry be reviewed for disqualification if you feel it violates any rule. To do this, use the âhere if you suspect a rules violationâ. link on the imageâs voting page, and give your reason in the space provided. After submitting your requests, vote assuming the entry did not violate any rules.
read The DQ Process - A Voter's Guide.

keep an open mind to other interpretations of the challenge topic.
consider the challenge topic when voting, and adjust your score accordingly.
vote on as many entries as practical in any challenge in which you vote.
comment on entries using the comment box under each photograph.
offer constructive criticism with any vote of 3 or lower.

You may:

adjust the scores of entries you have already rated directly from the main voting page.
offer criticism, praise, or other constructive comments.

You may not:

give an entry a lower score because you believe it violates the Challenge Rules.
recommend an entry for disqualification for not meeting the challenge.
vote on an entry based on its server-generated thumbnail.
vote on your own entry.
vote in a manner that suggests an intent to disrupt the voting system.
offer or cast biased votes for any other user.
offer slanderous, rude, profane or inflammatory comments.
abuse the anonymous commenting feature in any way.
discuss any entry in the forums while voting is in progress.
hold more than one DPChallenge account.
vote from another userâs DPChallenge account.
attempt to alter the point totals for any entry in any way.

We will:

display all entries in a random order for each voter.
group entries you have rated with other entries of the same rating on your main voting page.
declare the entry with the highest average score at the end of voting to be the winner.
recognize the first, second and third place entries on the front page.
use automatic and manual methods to actively monitor voting patterns for abuse.
ignore the votes of any user we believe is voting disruptively.
disqualify challenge entries from, suspend or ban anyone who abuses the voting system in any way.

Message edited by author 2012-12-19 13:11:52.
12/19/2012 07:48:42 AM · #3
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These ought to keep you busy! LOL!

Commenting is subjective. It depends on what your perspective is. You can comment to offer help to the photographer if you think you can give it, you can offer feedback on personal taste, ie. "I did not connect with this because _______.", You can comment to help yourself learn something from the photo such, there are any number of things you can do. First impressions are fine because everyone has one. I tend to wait on that one because I am generally perceived to have a negative first impression due to the fact that I am analytical and tend to see issues before I get to optimism.

Most of all have fun and remember there is another living, breathing person on the receiving end of the comment who is pouring out their very soul into every shot!! hahahaha!
12/19/2012 07:55:16 AM · #4
Beyond the site rules, it's really all up to you.

Comments: You can leave short "Nice photo!" comments or you can leave longer ones that get more in depth. I'm sure most will tell you that YOU will learn far more from the longer comments. They're a great way for you to learn what it is you actually like about photos and learn how to apply that to your own photos.

Scoring: Again, up to you as long as you understand 1 is the lowest and 10 is highest. As long as you're consistent with your scoring the system works. There are many people that give photos that don't fit the challenge a "1" and that is fine. I've seen people set up scoring systems that have each category weighted. Categories such as: Composition, fits challenge, impact, etc. I did this when I first started to get a feel for what I felt was important. Break down what categories are important to you and assign each a number value so that they total 10 in the end.

Like I said, just be consistent. Also, don't be surprised if your tastes change over time. I've got a favorite photo that during voting I gave a very poor score when I was new to the site. You'll learn a lot, and you'll learn it quickly. Be true to yourself, and you'll be alright. :)
12/19/2012 08:13:48 AM · #5
I recommend rewarding good photography with generous scores. Don't get too hung up on how precisely an image matches a specific challenge definition. There are lots of valid creative interpretations, which are sometimes treated unfairly. When I've finished voting, I like to see a statistically normal distribution of votes from 1 to 10. I strongly encourage people to vote in as many challenges as they can, including the ones in which they've entered. It's a character building experience to give high votes for images in competition with one's own. Likewise, the kindest thing one can do for one's friends is to offer honest votes on their images with suggestions for improvement attached.
12/19/2012 08:20:11 AM · #6
The challenge subject matters and it is not inappropriate to vote lower on an entry you feel does not fit the topic. Without considering the challenge topic, everything may as well be a freestudy. On the other hand, you should try to keep an open mind to approaches to the subject you may not have thought of at first. Where that line lies and how well defined it is, is completely up to you.
12/19/2012 08:24:01 AM · #7
Do as you please, but do it in a consistent manner.
There is no correct manner in which to vote, although some people will try to tell you otherwise. Create your own methodology and fire away.
12/19/2012 08:36:04 AM · #8
As mentioned, being consistent in your voting is the most important thing â it is up to you how heavily you want to weight topic relevance, originality, composition, and technical factors.

As far as making comments goes, I believe that the comments will be more helpful to you than to the photographer, especially if you try to express them "I like/don't like ______ because ..."

Being able to analyze and articulate what you like and don't like will help you when you are making your own images.

You should also assume that the photographer has processed the image to look the way they want. I try to stay away from comments like "This photo is too dark" ... instead I might say something like "I think this photo would be more effective if it was lighter." Photographers receiving comments need to remember that all comments are only the opinion of the commenter, and not a divine declaration ...

Welcome, and have fun!
12/19/2012 09:16:59 AM · #9
just give me a 10 on every image, i really dont care how you vote for others.
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