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11/23/2012 03:30:59 PM · #176 |
| If Langdon is so busy why doesn't he let others run and improve the site? |
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11/23/2012 03:38:08 PM · #177 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I think a once a month Expert Free Study would be very good, not only would you have a month to set up, shoot edit etc, but it would also give anyone that is not an expert time to look up ideas and concepts and read tutorials and practice on their skills.
The people that are experts in picture manipulation are truly awe inspiring and I know it wants myself to better myself, but I think having a month to think of an idea, a concept, shoot and then edit will beneficent everyone that is trying to push themselves.
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I would like this very much. Expert editing is something I would like to learn, and the idea of having a month to work on the skills to produce an image in expert editing is very appealing to me. |
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11/23/2012 04:45:58 PM · #178 |
I can't speak for anyone else, but for my $0.0684/diem I demand more... much more.
It is positively shameful how some people would have the audacity to dig so deep in my pockets and give me so little in return.
Justice I say... who is with me. :O)
Good grief... I just noticed that I am down to my last 10 cents of credit... best I check with the bank right soon and see if I can get a loan.
Ray
Message edited by author 2012-11-23 22:12:45. |
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11/23/2012 05:22:48 PM · #179 |
Originally posted by ursula:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I think a once a month Expert Free Study would be very good, not only would you have a month to set up, shoot edit etc, but it would also give anyone that is not an expert time to look up ideas and concepts and read tutorials and practice on their skills.
The people that are experts in picture manipulation are truly awe inspiring and I know it wants myself to better myself, but I think having a month to think of an idea, a concept, shoot and then edit will beneficent everyone that is trying to push themselves.
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I would like this very much. Expert editing is something I would like to learn, and the idea of having a month to work on the skills to produce an image in expert editing is very appealing to me. |
I agree! I have entered 1 challenge in expert and that was the Ken challenge, I entered the 'wrong' challenge but only used advanced editing.
I truly think that we can all improve ourselves and this site if it is a once a month thing and a free study at that.
We are all hanging on with our fingernails for some change or forward thinking with this website. SO maybe, this could be a start of some positive thinking and planning! |
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11/23/2012 05:34:18 PM · #180 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
We are all hanging on with our fingernails for some change or forward thinking with this website. SO maybe, this could be a start of some positive thinking and planning! |
That's only if Langdon reads this thread and does anything about it. |
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11/23/2012 05:40:12 PM · #181 |
Originally posted by MNet:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
We are all hanging on with our fingernails for some change or forward thinking with this website. SO maybe, this could be a start of some positive thinking and planning! |
That's only if Langdon reads this thread and does anything about it. |
Surely someone here is a friend of his on Facebook and can politely link him this thread so he is sure to see it! Such a shame to see someone with a "Golden nugget" of income just let it go to waste such as it is. There is so much more potential here it's unreal. Both in income potential for the owner, and for content for the members.
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11/23/2012 05:44:17 PM · #182 |
Originally posted by MNet:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
We are all hanging on with our fingernails for some change or forward thinking with this website. SO maybe, this could be a start of some positive thinking and planning! |
That's only if Langdon reads this thread and does anything about it. |
Agreed, BUT, what if he does not read this, then we are all in the same position as we where 20 mins ago.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooo what is stopping US from making this website better, more active, more just about anything.
So let's bring on the ideas.... a mentoring system, a critique mentoring, a solid side challenge of mentoring with 1 subject, a better explanation of descriptions when it comes to the challenges. Why not bring back the Olympics? why not do our own DPL>
Basically, I think what I am trying to say is........................ WE get as much as we put in to this website....................
So instead of all the threads complaining about this that and the other, why do we not do it ourselves. All the above things we can do, we have that power.
Another thing to ponder on, is maybe Langdon has not bothered with replying or doing anything is cus every-time he DOES do something people bitch and whine about the changes.
Think about it, how much bitching and whining do you do to one person before they give up and are not bothered with doing aything. Maybe a little incentive from our part might inspire him again! There is only so much verbal abuse one can take , before a person just gives up.
So that is my food for thought! |
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11/23/2012 05:48:38 PM · #183 |
| And if you are looking at this thread Langdon, then it is time to pull your head out and do something.In the last 5 years I have seen unrest, but this time I think it is really different, mostly because everyone is replying seriously and professionally. |
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11/23/2012 05:49:48 PM · #184 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooo what is stopping US from making this website better, more active, more just about anything. |
Access to the code and administrative panels of the site |
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11/23/2012 05:50:37 PM · #185 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by MNet:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
We are all hanging on with our fingernails for some change or forward thinking with this website. SO maybe, this could be a start of some positive thinking and planning! |
That's only if Langdon reads this thread and does anything about it. |
Agreed, BUT, what if he does not read this, then we are all in the same position as we where 20 mins ago.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooo what is stopping US from making this website better, more active, more just about anything.
So let's bring on the ideas.... a mentoring system, a critique mentoring, a solid side challenge of mentoring with 1 subject, a better explanation of descriptions when it comes to the challenges. Why not bring back the Olympics? why not do our own DPL>
Basically, I think what I am trying to say is........................ WE get as much as we put in to this website....................
So instead of all the threads complaining about this that and the other, why do we not do it ourselves. All the above things we can do, we have that power.
Another thing to ponder on, is maybe Langdon has not bothered with replying or doing anything is cus every-time he DOES do something people bitch and whine about the changes.
Think about it, how much bitching and whining do you do to one person before they give up and are not bothered with doing aything. Maybe a little incentive from our part might inspire him again! There is only so much verbal abuse one can take , before a person just gives up.
So that is my food for thought! |
We've tried that. Or at least I've tried that. (which one feedback thread, photoshop tutorial threads, etc). I was hoping we could come up with some simple things that perhaps could be easy to implement. (pay scott to do wpl).
I suppose we could bypass Langdon and approach scott ourselves. And have it be a pay-per play. Though I wish it would come from Langdon...
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11/23/2012 05:57:18 PM · #186 |
| This site charges money and therefore should be run like a proper business. If Langdon does not want to do it why doesn't he sell it? Someone could make a lot of money from properly running DPC. Where else would you find so many dedicated customers willing to pay for a poor service? How much would they be prepared to pay for a good service? I had no problem paying $50 for 500px. It offers a lot of modern facilities for the money like portfolios with your own domain name, Ipad app, LR plugin. I would be prepared to pay more for DPC if it was run with constant improvement and responsiveness to its supporters. |
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11/23/2012 06:04:25 PM · #187 |
I know you have Wendy, even I have tried as have many others,
It just seem's like a very sad situation right now and Langdon does need to step up to the plate. But to be honest, we have all been waiting for that to happen, and it never does, so I can understand the despondency in this thread. You get promised things over and over again and it never comes about, so why bother, that is the end result, why bother at all. And that is why I am saying it is a sad, sad ending. |
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11/23/2012 06:10:33 PM · #188 |
Originally posted by MNet:
I had no problem paying $50 for 500px. It offers a lot of modern facilities for the money like portfolios with your own domain name, Ipad app, LR plugin. I would be prepared to pay more for DPC if it was run with constant improvement and responsiveness to its supporters. |
And here is the rub: I don't want ANY of these things from DPC because there are oodles of other sites offering everything you just listed, but not a challenge, learning environment around which this site is built. I'm not here for the bells and whistles, flash content, blah blah. Sure, the image size could be bigger. It would be nice if we could upload multiple images at once when submitting proof for expert challenges, etc. For portfolio space I already use my site as well as Flickr, and upload larger file sizes. Honestly, if this becomes just another 500px, then it will be me that is leaving. |
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11/23/2012 06:10:57 PM · #189 |
Maybe each and everyone that wants to see change, should private message him. I just did, I might get banned now though lol. But if you ask, the main man directly, and not just have it in a thread,,,, that he obviously does not read, then maybe individual emails with your thoughts and idea's will get through.
If no one takes the stand and directly contacts him with our thoughts and ideas, then how is he going to know, let us be proactive with this versus whining and talking about this in a thread. Do you think he will ignore 10 email messages? I believe he would not, or at least I hope he would not.
Just my, $1.99 cent thought!
Message edited by author 2012-11-23 23:16:31. |
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11/23/2012 06:22:50 PM · #190 |
Another suggestion - why not develop a new DPC? With features that work here and without those that don't. I know that there was an attempt to do that in the past but it only had a subset of functionality and was essentially an advertizing venture for its creator (that's how I remember it, I might be wrong).
Who would be interested in doing that? Back it up with proper resources and dedication? The business model is very good as it leads to addiction :) (we all know the Update button's irresistable power) |
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11/23/2012 06:29:10 PM · #191 |
Please let me still love DPC, Langdon, even after the second SILENCE, and not the 46 days left to enter the 48-hour challenge.
I really, really want to love DPC.
I have SO MANY friends here.
It's the little things, I think... that make life... and sites... special.
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11/23/2012 06:31:15 PM · #192 |
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
I have SO MANY friends here.
It's the little things, I think... that make life... and sites... special. |
Bravo, I agree 100% |
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11/23/2012 06:48:39 PM · #193 |
I don't have time to read through all the suggestions here but I think one single thing could make this site better.
Give full admin controls to someone who cares about the site. I'm sure there are a few that are willing and able to run this site and listen to suggestions from the masses to make decision. Probably even do it for free or at least a free membership. |
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11/23/2012 07:16:02 PM · #194 |
Originally posted by SEG:
Give full admin controls to someone who cares about the site. I'm sure there are a few that are willing and able to run this site and listen to suggestions from the masses to make decision. Probably even do it for free or at least a free membership. |
I'm one of them. I've petitioned Langdon several times to let me be his front man and keep the communication lines open and things running smoothly. Unfortunately, to no avail. |
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11/23/2012 07:23:55 PM · #195 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
I have SO MANY friends here.
It's the little things, I think... that make life... and sites... special. |
Bravo, I agree 100% |
And sadly, this is where the underlying problem is. No, there is nothing wrong with the strong sense of community and emotional outpouring expressed by many on this site but there is a problem when the community becomes an overbearing presence. This is what has happened to DPChallenge and it is not unlike a pub which has become hijacked by its patrons. When you walk in and experience the friendly atmosphere, it at first seems alluring but you quickly come to realize you are an outsider. There is a cost associated with this level of intimacy. The forums have become the dominating aspect of this site and that is the Achilles heel. There needs to be a partition.
Member nominated site council, team challenges, user generated award programs and so on only reinforce the emphasis the membership has placed on fitting in. Many forget the original beacon spotlighting this site was the pursuit of photographic excellence through learning. This fundamental ingredient is ignored by those who have lost sight on what spurred the peak of DPC's existence. Where are those visionaries now?
Unless someone makes a hard offer to purchase the reigns from Langdon, the site will expire. It was exhilarating while it lasted but it has become tired and recycled. Those who argue the place is perfect are also the ones who will sadly experience the greatest disappointment when one day the site is offline. The will fall victim to their own delusion of perpetuity.
Some things are worth fighting for and DPC's legacy unquestionably holds great value. If someone is brave enough to craft an intelligent and deliberate proposal to the current owner, you all may have a pub to enjoy for many more years. Best to enjoy it in another room where it does not interfere with those who do not want to drink your wine and just want to post pictures.
In the meantime, button up and enjoy what you have acknowledging the forum banter will not bring life to these old walls. Fresh paint, fresh ideas and a new agenda built around DPC's legacy is what is needed. |
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11/23/2012 07:48:32 PM · #196 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by SEG:
Give full admin controls to someone who cares about the site. I'm sure there are a few that are willing and able to run this site and listen to suggestions from the masses to make decision. Probably even do it for free or at least a free membership. |
I'm one of them. I've petitioned Langdon several times to let me be his front man and keep the communication lines open and things running smoothly. Unfortunately, to no avail. |
And you are one of few persons that I am sure would get unanimous support from the majority of the DPC community. We would need someone who is consistent and the proven voice of the community. |
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11/23/2012 07:55:04 PM · #197 |
I have 2 points. People seem to think Langdon has a gold mine here money-wise. I don't think so. If he made as much money as some of you think he does, he would be busting his ass to make sure everyone was happy and renewing subscriptions. My guess is he makes enough to cover the cost of hosting the site with a chunk left over to put in the bank.
Secondly, there has to be some middle ground between people who want wholesale overhaul of the site and those who want to bury their heads and say "appreciate what you get". I, for one, favor small changes. Just little tweaks, like, for instance, being able to organize your favorites. Wouldn't it be cool to go to Posthumous's profile and see under his favorites a section of ones that got Posthumous Ribbons and a section for his fantasy art gallery?
As for those of you saying "Lets take the change in our own hands" well, freakin DO IT and stop bitching about it. Start a thread for doing a thing and see who follows. Or, get someone on here that can code and make a site the way you like it. Everyone knows these threads get little to no attention from the big guy and I'm kinda in favor of everyone shutting the hell up and just doing something. |
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11/23/2012 08:18:23 PM · #198 |
I really don't want a whole lot.
I just think that ... if someone where paying attention to the site, that ... there wouldn't be two challenges with the exact same topic within three weeks, and there wouldn't be a 48-hour challenge that lasts 48 DAYS.
I'm CERTAINLY aware that people make mistakes. I, too, am human...
I certainly don't think Langdon is getting wealthy off of this site. (I wish he were!!)
But... I teach my children that if they take something on... either do it to the best of their ability ... or don't do it.
I've entered over 600 challenges here. I am not impartial to the site's success.
I WANT it to succeed.
I am not criticizing... I am trying to figure out a solution.
I'm... at a loss here.
Message edited by author 2012-11-24 01:21:47. |
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11/23/2012 09:14:09 PM · #199 |
Originally posted by SEG:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by SEG:
Give full admin controls to someone who cares about the site. I'm sure there are a few that are willing and able to run this site and listen to suggestions from the masses to make decision. Probably even do it for free or at least a free membership. |
I'm one of them. I've petitioned Langdon several times to let me be his front man and keep the communication lines open and things running smoothly. Unfortunately, to no avail. |
And you are one of few persons that I am sure would get unanimous support from the majority of the DPC community. We would need someone who is consistent and the proven voice of the community. |
Strange... When I offered he was very quick to respond. ;) |
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11/24/2012 02:42:52 AM · #200 |
OK so just like real life, everyone wants change and no one wants to do what it takes to get change.
We know what the solution is. Make a new site and leave this one.
I don't have the coding experience required, but I'd be willing to contribute what is asked of me. And that includes contributing to funding.
I pay $25 a year basically just to enter challenges, I'd pay that and more to get that and more elsewhere. |
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