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09/18/2012 06:08:09 AM · #1
Haven't seen this mentioned here, so i m going to point out a recent discovery. For students and those upgrading from PS, you can get access to all adobe products including a 20gig cloud service for $30 a month for a year. For this, you get one PC and one MAC license.

I don't know if everyone's looking to invest $360 a year into adobe products, but in my case- this solution makes a lot of sense. I hope some of you can benefit from this find as well.

edit: heres a link

Message edited by author 2012-09-18 10:09:23.
09/18/2012 08:14:06 AM · #2
Educational pricing for Photoshop is less than this. And my educational pricing for the whole master suite was sub $500. Not saying it's a bad offer but it's not a screaming deal for students.
09/18/2012 09:41:12 AM · #3
Last i checked, Master Suite was $800. Then i Checked B&H and found it at $650 given those nice discounts. There are a few more things to keep in mind.

You can buy either a MAC or PC version, not a license for both. Creative Suite allows for this, (which is great for me because i own a PC and our house computer is a MacBookPro.)

MasterSuite also lacks the "services" such as cloud storage & sync (there are others, but i don't really use them...I intend to work with more fonts, so i do look forward to that).

Finally, there is no LR in MasterSuite. LR, while its sold as a standalone for either mac or pc, is a key part of my workflow. Mom's gonna teach me some web design stuff using some of the other programs as well!

While, I am paying monthly, I am also always getting the most updated version of the program. There is no need to have upgrade envy (lets face it, most of the time you can go without an upgrade between 2-3 versions of PS without missing out too much - but a small part of me always likes to have the new stuff - and this makes it relatively affordable)

Given all this, I find Creative Cloud the superior choice. It may not be a great deal for some, and for others it could be a steal. Just putting it out there.

Message edited by author 2012-09-18 13:45:14.
09/18/2012 09:56:10 AM · #4
students have access to all adobe products at a very low price and this method is better for me than the monthly service, i haven't and dont yet plan upgrade to cs6, but i got cs5 for about $200 and lightroom4 for for about $89. i cant remember the exact prices but they were around that.

one of the perks of being a career student is software pricing...

Message edited by author 2012-09-18 13:56:40.
09/19/2012 10:14:35 AM · #5
yea, i m aware of student pricing - since i've joined the service on student pricing. (regular being $50 a month). Its really not for everyone, but makes a whole lot of sense in other scenarios. Glad your stuffs workin out!
11/14/2012 07:27:55 PM · #6
adobe has a special running through the end of november 2012. the educational subscription (for students or teachers) is only $19 a month! for the first year, the $30 a month.

Originally posted by adobe:

$19.99/month Adobe Creative Cloud Offer

For a limited time, eligible Students and Teachers can purchase an annual membership to Adobe® Creative Cloudâ„¢ for a reduced price of $19.99/month for the first year. Offer valid for purchases of an annual plan, which requires a 12-month contract. Offer available in the United States and Canada, excluding Quebec. This offer is only available to eligible education customers who purchase directly from the Adobe Store or by calling Adobe Sales. This offer is not available to OEM, commercial or volume licensing customers. This offer is valid from October 5, 2012 until November 30, 2012. This offer is limited to one (1) purchase of one (1) Creative Cloud annual membership per customer. Offer may not be assigned, exchanged, sold, transferred, or combined with any other discount or offer, or redeemed for cash or other goods and services. This offer and prices are subject to change without notice. Void where prohibited or restricted by law.

Billing Terms for Annual Membership
Annual plan - $19.99/month with a one year contract.

Payment
You̢۪re signing up for a one year plan. Each month, during that one year, we̢۪ll bill your credit card $19.99/month incl. tax. As soon as you̢۪ve successfully completed this sign-up process and your payment is confirmed, your membership will begin.

Renewal
This promotional price is valid for the first 12 months. After that, we̢۪ll renew your contract automatically, at the standard annual plan price (currently at $29.99/month), unless you cancel. The price is subject to change, but we will always notify you beforehand.

Cancellation
We̢۪d hate to see you go, but if you cancel within the first 30 days, we̢۪ll give you a full refund. Otherwise, you̢۪ll be billed 50% of your remaining contract obligation. If you ever need to cancel, just call Customer Support.


what is Creative Cloud?
Originally posted by adobe:

Adobe® Creative Cloudâ„¢ is an ongoing membership that lets you download and install any of the new Adobe Creative Suite® 6 desktop software, including features like the amazing new Content Aware Patch in Adobe Photoshop® CS6. You also get other creative software like Adobe Photoshop Lightroom® 4, plus online services to help you sync, store, and share files online. Best of all, you get the latest software and features as soon as they're released.


as i have two high schoolers that are both fairly involved with photoshop, illustrator, and indesign, this might make sense for me and them. the only downside i see is that when you cancel the subscription, you don't have anything - unlike buying a license outright, choosing not to upgrade, but still being able to use the software for years to come.
11/15/2012 04:12:39 AM · #7
this is true.

Also the 19$ is neat, i saw the ad and i was quite happy
11/15/2012 04:52:07 AM · #8
i'm really torn, because adobe does have all the industry-standard tools. even if i get my kids photoshop, i can't use theirs. well, i could, but then they couldn't, because you can only use it on one machine at a time. what i need is a 3rd kid...but that would just open up a whole new set of issues :D

because i bought the creative suite years ago, that's the only thing i can upgrade. they won't let me get an upgrade price for just photoshop. i can get a "deal" through the end of the year for only $1000 for the suite. or i could buy into the subscription for $50/mo ($600/yr). while the subscription is less painful, it's still more expensive over time than it is (or was) to buy outright and then skip some versions.
11/15/2012 05:09:37 AM · #9
Originally posted by Skip:

...while the subscription is less painful, it's still more expensive over time than it is (or was) to buy outright and then skip some versions.


Indeed. And I told Adobe exactly that when I took a survey on Creative Cloud pricing prior to release. I was actually dumbfounded when I saw the actual pricing... until I realized that they were hell bent on making perpetual licensees upgrade every version. Then the light went on. The Cloud is probably (slightly) cheaper than upgrading the entire suite every version. But the key is that it is less painful. They just want you to get used to shelling out the monthly bill and not thinking about it. No thanks.
For me, if I use an application regularly, a perpetual license is still the way to go. I can see Creative Cloud as a good option if I need certain apps for a limited period for a specific project. I can see applications in my workplace where it gives us flexibility in managing our monthly expenditures (pay only for seats you need at the time).
11/15/2012 05:49:06 AM · #10
i think you can use one mac and one PC simultaneously. Pretty sure thats included in the license
11/15/2012 05:59:56 AM · #11
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by Skip:

...while the subscription is less painful, it's still more expensive over time than it is (or was) to buy outright and then skip some versions.


Indeed. And I told Adobe exactly that when I took a survey on Creative Cloud pricing prior to release. I was actually dumbfounded when I saw the actual pricing... until I realized that they were hell bent on making perpetual licensees upgrade every version. Then the light went on. The Cloud is probably (slightly) cheaper than upgrading the entire suite every version. But the key is that it is less painful. They just want you to get used to shelling out the monthly bill and not thinking about it. No thanks.
For me, if I use an application regularly, a perpetual license is still the way to go. I can see Creative Cloud as a good option if I need certain apps for a limited period for a specific project. I can see applications in my workplace where it gives us flexibility in managing our monthly expenditures (pay only for seats you need at the time).

excellent synopsis of the situation. the only catch with what i bolded above is that, at least on the "deals", these are annual contracts that require paying out the balance on early cancellation.

Originally posted by Devinder:

i think you can use one mac and one PC simultaneously. Pretty sure thats included in the license

which, for me, would mean getting a mac, which would be almost as tough as getting a third kid :P

Message edited by author 2012-11-15 11:01:07.
11/15/2012 06:17:47 AM · #12
I'm wondering if anyone else is perturbed about this gradual but persistent un-doing of the personal computing revolution — I thought the whole point was to be able to work without having to be connected to a central mainframe. Your subscription to Adobe won't be of much use if your internet connection is down or slow, or their server has a bug or gets overloaded.
11/15/2012 06:45:25 AM · #13
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I'm wondering if anyone else is perturbed about this gradual but persistent un-doing of the personal computing revolution — I thought the whole point was to be able to work without having to be connected to a central mainframe. Your subscription to Adobe won't be of much use if your internet connection is down or slow, or their server has a bug or gets overloaded.

i agree with this sentiment. with the adobe subscription, you create your account, login in, and download the software. you can use it "offline", but i'm not sure how long you can be offline before mother calls you home...
11/15/2012 07:10:09 AM · #14
My understanding is that it phones home once a month.
11/15/2012 07:32:46 AM · #15
Originally posted by Skip:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

I'm wondering if anyone else is perturbed about this gradual but persistent un-doing of the personal computing revolution — I thought the whole point was to be able to work without having to be connected to a central mainframe. Your subscription to Adobe won't be of much use if your internet connection is down or slow, or their server has a bug or gets overloaded.

i agree with this sentiment. with the adobe subscription, you create your account, login in, and download the software. you can use it "offline", but i'm not sure how long you can be offline before mother calls you home...


if its like the Cad software i use at work, 30 days from the last time it phoned home. The software i use phones home at the start of each instance and then falls back into a fully functioning trial mode for 30 days max if it cant connect.
11/15/2012 09:56:56 AM · #16
From my reading of the Adobe Creative Cloud FAQ:
- You can use it on either (or both) PC and Mac
- You can install on two machines total, no matter if they are both of one species (PC, Mac) or one of each ;-)
- You cannot run two copies simultaneously
- You do not need an active internet connection to run the software, however it does need to connect every thirty days (it will prompt you)

Out of this, I conclude that they really don't check upon app startup (since a connection is not required).
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