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Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM Lens

02/15/2012 07:45:20 AM · #1

I'm sure this is probably posted in previous threads, however, I can't seem to find any info about it, and want to ensure that I don't get disqualified from a challenge (especially on my first entry).

I'm shoot in raw, and sometimes edit information from there, such as saturation, contrast, white balance, etc. Then plan on converting to .jpg for final entry.

Regarding Basic Challenge Rules, in the RAW editing process, is there any tool that wouldn't be acceptable to use for editing (and is it acceptable to process in RAW if I keep the original)? I don't want to break any rules and want to be completely clear about them.

Thanks in advance for the help.

hahn23

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

02/15/2012 07:50:18 AM · #2

Originally posted by dyridings:

... is there any tool that wouldn't be acceptable to use for editing (and is it acceptable to process in RAW if I keep the original)? ...

In general, any tool which does a selection of pixels is illegal. All adjustments must be global.

Yes, you may process in a RAW image adjustment tool. Aperture and Lightroom come to mind. But, again, just use the global adjustment tools. For example, avoid the vignettes and the dodge and burn tools.

There's more to it than that, but that's the general workflow concept.

vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

02/15/2012 08:10:27 AM · #3

Can't use the gradient tool.

NiallOTuama

Google Pixel 2

02/15/2012 08:13:42 AM · #4

Or layers that aren't adjustment layers in Photoshop.

hahn23

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM Lens

02/15/2012 08:39:10 AM · #5

You can't spot edit, but you can remove sensor dust or hot pixels.

deeby

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

02/15/2012 09:10:12 AM · #6

If you are using Lightroom, the edits you make are sees on the screen, but do not alter the RAW data. The edit commands are stored in a database. The edits are applied to image exports, for example exporting as jpeg.

That's one of the useful things about Lightroom (and I think RAW in general): you never actually change the original. And the editing steps are exportable to file.

Kamlan 28mm F1.4 MF for APS-C

02/15/2012 09:18:02 AM · #7

I used PaintShop Pro4 for the editing, as it's what I've installed on my daughter's computer for her personal use.

I copied the RAW image and then edited the "copied image" in RAW conversion. I saved the original RAW image.
I then converted to JPEG and saved.

I decided to send the picture and the steps used in processing to the site council so that I can be assured I followed all rules.

I don't think I violated anything, but better safe than sorry.

Thanks everyone for your help!!!

Manic

DJI Mini 3 Pro

02/15/2012 11:07:54 AM · #8

One other thing that hasn't been mentioned in this thread is that you can't add a feature that wasn't already present, the specific example for Basic Editing is that you can't add a vignette (which is commonly available in RAW processing) or any other similar lens-emulating effect. However, in Advanced or Expert, you're given a little more leeway regarding this.

petehall

Nikon D7000

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

02/15/2012 11:19:04 AM · #9

Originally posted by deeby:

Are you a software developer by any chance? :)

deeby

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

02/15/2012 11:53:54 AM · #10

Originally posted by petehall:

Originally posted by deeby:
If you are using Lightroom, the edits you make are sees on the screen, but do not alter the RAW data. The edit commands are stored in a database. The edits are applied to image exports, for example exporting as jpeg.

Are you a software developer by any chance? :)

Interesting....I promise to answer you after you tell me why you think so ;)

petehall

Nikon D7000

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

02/16/2012 04:06:27 AM · #11

Well apart from the answer generally being technical, this line in particular;

Originally posted by deeby:

The edit commands are stored in a database.

:-)

deeby

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

02/16/2012 04:15:15 AM · #12

Originally posted by petehall:

Well apart from the answer generally being technical, this line in particular;

Originally posted by deeby:
The edit commands are stored in a database.

:-)

hahah! Yeah I see what you mean. I'm actually a technical writer in the software industry. My audience is mostly technical folks like Java developers, so I tend to slip into that mode.

02/16/2012 04:24:40 AM · #13

Thanks for all the help everyone!

I am still awaiting the decision by site council. I am sure once I receive their decision, it will clear up any questions I have about Basic editing from here on out.

Again, thanks to everyone for the responses!