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10/26/2011 11:03:17 AM · #1 |
This is kind of a repost of my post on my area of concentration.
My teacher doesn't like any of my ideas. I want to make my topic on something about animals. She doesn't like my idea on "Life in the Clinic" (Which is exactly what it says. I work at a vet clinic.) or my idea of capturing the emotions of pets. She wants it to be something that kind of has to do with the problems in society, so I'm trying to brainstorm. The only thing I can think of that really ticks me off in our society that has anything to do with animal is, well, animal abuse. I'm having so much trouble with this, it's not even funny. I'm thinking about changing my whole subject, but I'm around animals all the time.
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10/26/2011 11:05:41 AM · #2 |
| Snap a shot of her for "Teachers who don't appreciate their students ideas and want to push their own agenda" |
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10/26/2011 11:10:00 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Snap a shot of her for "Teachers who don't appreciate their students ideas and want to push their own agenda" |
Good idea. :)
I don't think she'd like it very much,though.
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10/26/2011 11:26:06 AM · #4 |
| Show how certain factions of society find animals as sub-creatures, while others consider them family and will go to great lengths for them...(all the stuff at the clinic). |
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10/26/2011 11:29:37 AM · #5 |
I like Art's idea. How about a series on teachers and their methods? A series on over-controlling teachers who force feed students and grade on the quality of their regurgitations ( gee this sounds just like what I said!This kid really understands), and compare that with teachers who know how to teach, to kindel and help refine the interests of their students?
Please don't buckle in and do a generic "problem with society" series. If I never see another photo essay on homelessness (or fill in societal problem which high school students have little experience) mounted at the local high school or library I will be OK with that. I think your idea of life at the clinic is a much better one. It reminds me of one of the first photo essays I ever saw that blew me away W Eugene Smith's Country Doctor . Shoot what you know, and shoot that which you have a unique view of. Pitch the idea back at your teacher using Smith as a template, focusing on either the vet as the central figure, or as a study of the investment people have in their pets, and how their emotions surface when those pets' welfare are in risk.
Your teacher is probably afraid you will produce a bunch of cute animal pictures. Make her understand what goes on at the clinic. There is good stuff there. |
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10/26/2011 11:37:07 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
I like Art's idea. How about a series on teachers and their methods? A series on over-controlling teachers who force feed students and grade on the quality of their regurgitations ( gee this sounds just like what I said!This kid really understands), and compare that with teachers who know how to teach, to kindel and help refine the interests of their students?
Please don't buckle in and do a generic "problem with society" series. If I never see another photo essay on homelessness (or fill in societal problem which high school students have little experience) mounted at the local high school or library I will be OK with that. I think your idea of life at the clinic is a much better one. It reminds me of one of the first photo essays I ever saw that blew me away W Eugene Smith's Country Doctor . Shoot what you know, and shoot that which you have a unique view of. Pitch the idea back at your teacher using Smith as a template, focusing on either the vet as the central figure, or as a study of the investment people have in their pets, and how their emotions surface when those pets' welfare are in risk.
Your teacher is probably afraid you will produce a bunch of cute animal pictures. Make her understand what goes on at the clinic. There is good stuff there. |
+1
My thought exactly; teacher probably thinks you want to do cute-pet pictures. Push the "peoples' involvement with their pets" aspect of it, underscore the increasing importance of pets as a means of coping with stress, and there's your "human problem" angle.
R.
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10/26/2011 11:38:54 AM · #7 |
| I think you have your answer! :) |
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10/26/2011 01:06:09 PM · #8 |
I rarely agree with Brennan, but when I do, I drink Dos Equis.
 Cheers. |
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10/26/2011 01:20:03 PM · #9 |
You must be the most interesting man alive!
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
I rarely agree with Brennan, but when I do, I drink Dos Equis.
Cheers. |
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10/26/2011 01:56:02 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
I rarely agree with Brennan, but when I do, I drink Dos Equis.
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LOL, I love those commercials! Mmmmm... Dos Equis!
On a more serious note, I do think the problem of animal abuse/neglect is a serious one. How about the local Humane Society? They probably encounter cases of abuse/neglect regularly, unfortunate as that is.
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10/26/2011 02:20:31 PM · #11 |
Why don't you look at the therapeutic ways animals are able to calm people. There are programmes that work with animals going into hospitals and old people homes that have a great benefit on the people they interact with.
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10/26/2011 02:32:55 PM · #12 |
Does your clinic ever have animals brought in (perhaps by a concerned third party) which are victims of abuse/neglect? Maybe shots of a few of them could be combined with shots of the well loved animals that are more commonly seen in clinics. Then you would be addressing the comparison between different aspects of society as well as doing what you know. You might be able to sell that to your over-bearing teacher.
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10/28/2011 10:45:36 AM · #13 |
Thank you everyone! I'll see what she says, now. Then I'll post my new Area of Concentration so you all can see.
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10/28/2011 11:06:43 AM · #14 |
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10/28/2011 01:09:55 PM · #15 |
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10/28/2011 01:37:20 PM · #16 |
I think you can definitely converge the ideas of social issues with animals: shoot at local convalescent homes while therapy animals are present. Shoot homeless pets (the ones who sit next to the homeless on the streets), etc.
I don't think a kneejerk out-of-hand rejection of someone else's ideas is good in either direction. It would help to know why she does not like your original idea, and not just get pissed off and scream "repression!". |
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11/01/2011 10:36:30 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
I like Art's idea. How about a series on teachers and their methods? A series on over-controlling teachers who force feed students and grade on the quality of their regurgitations ( gee this sounds just like what I said!This kid really understands), and compare that with teachers who know how to teach, to kindel and help refine the interests of their students?
Please don't buckle in and do a generic "problem with society" series. If I never see another photo essay on homelessness (or fill in societal problem which high school students have little experience) mounted at the local high school or library I will be OK with that. I think your idea of life at the clinic is a much better one. It reminds me of one of the first photo essays I ever saw that blew me away W Eugene Smith's Country Doctor . Shoot what you know, and shoot that which you have a unique view of. Pitch the idea back at your teacher using Smith as a template, focusing on either the vet as the central figure, or as a study of the investment people have in their pets, and how their emotions surface when those pets' welfare are in risk.
Your teacher is probably afraid you will produce a bunch of cute animal pictures. Make her understand what goes on at the clinic. There is good stuff there. |
She still doesn't like the idea...It's kind of pissing me off. Apparently it's too much like documentation. She tried to explain to me that this is for a college portfolio, since it's an AP photography class. She wants images with emotion and a meaning, not documentation.
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11/01/2011 11:02:43 AM · #18 |
How about non-traditional still life. There are a thousand examples in the Photo Gallery section that could provide inspiration.
A couple of mine.
 
Others that have caught my eye.
by  bubeltrubel
by RamblinR (Not the best example for an animal lover)
Use this as a way to learn directional lighting. Expand the theme if necessary to Single Light Still Life. Still life's don't move, so a single light bulb could be your light source when used with a tripod.
Tim
Message edited by author 2011-11-01 15:21:00. |
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11/01/2011 11:34:11 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by KenzieKupcake:
....Apparently it's too much like documentation. She tried to explain to me that this is for a college portfolio, since it's an AP photography class. She wants images with emotion and a meaning, not documentation. |
what? there's no emotion and meaning in photographic evidence? nor, I imagine, in purple skies. |
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11/01/2011 11:35:20 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by KenzieKupcake:
She still doesn't like the idea...It's kind of pissing me off. Apparently it's too much like documentation. She tried to explain to me that this is for a college portfolio, since it's an AP photography class. She wants images with emotion and a meaning, not documentation. |
So ask her where you will find sufficient emotion and meaning? My guess is the homeless under a bridge or the abused animals in the pound will be her answer. The canned ennui of emotional tourism, the vicarious thrill of the privileged visiting and taking images of the unfortunate. God knows those will really make unique insights that no other college applicant will have in their portfolio.
Anyone who has been around a vet (and I will guess your teacher has not) knows the emotion of telling the owners of a family pet of many years that he has to be put down, and I will not soon forget the image of my tough brother in law holding onto his old dog as he slips away after the fatal injection. Most of my background is in large animal but the emotions around difficult births, geldings, the contained fury of floating teeth or tube worming, suturing up a nasty gash in a yearling as the mare and the owners look on. these emotions are as extreme as those in a human hospital, and much easier to photograph (from an non intrusive point of view).
Beside, what the f#@k is wrong with documentary photography? How can anything worth documenting not convey emotion and meaning? How can anything connect the viewer to a subject enough to give a d%^m, if the images are not given the depth and background of the documentary approach? |
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11/01/2011 11:48:21 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by KenzieKupcake:
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
I like Art's idea. How about a series on teachers and their methods? A series on over-controlling teachers who force feed students and grade on the quality of their regurgitations ( gee this sounds just like what I said!This kid really understands), and compare that with teachers who know how to teach, to kindel and help refine the interests of their students?
Please don't buckle in and do a generic "problem with society" series. If I never see another photo essay on homelessness (or fill in societal problem which high school students have little experience) mounted at the local high school or library I will be OK with that. I think your idea of life at the clinic is a much better one. It reminds me of one of the first photo essays I ever saw that blew me away W Eugene Smith's Country Doctor . Shoot what you know, and shoot that which you have a unique view of. Pitch the idea back at your teacher using Smith as a template, focusing on either the vet as the central figure, or as a study of the investment people have in their pets, and how their emotions surface when those pets' welfare are in risk.
Your teacher is probably afraid you will produce a bunch of cute animal pictures. Make her understand what goes on at the clinic. There is good stuff there. |
She still doesn't like the idea...It's kind of pissing me off. Apparently it's too much like documentation. She tried to explain to me that this is for a college portfolio, since it's an AP photography class. She wants images with emotion and a meaning, not documentation. |
Ask her WTF she means. Let her know she's confusing you and you need examples of images with emotion and meaning but don't document. ALL images are essentially documentation.
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11/07/2011 10:06:08 AM · #22 |
Okay, so I chose an area of concentration that she likes. It's an animal's view of the clinic. I've taken some piture and am waiting for her to tell me what she thinks. Here's a few of them.
I put them in black and white, 'cause isn't that how animals see?
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11/07/2011 10:17:38 AM · #23 |
Fixed your links: use the "Insert Thumbnail" button (second from right) and the number only from the end of the image's Photo_ID.
Some animals see in color, some in black and white, and some in color but a different spectrum than we do (e.g. into the ultraviolet range). You should do some more research ... |
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11/07/2011 10:22:56 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by KenzieKupcake:
I put them in black and white, 'cause isn't that how animals see? |
What animal sees in selective desat? |
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11/07/2011 05:14:34 PM · #25 |
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