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 05/17/2011 05:06:21 PM · #1
Ok so this is probably a little odd.. but what if someone chooses to be the PP Person for a challenge (someone good and who will be unbiassed. Say we limit the number of entries.. too, others that would get crazy.

Then everyone forwards their picture to the PP Person, he/she does their thing, sends it back and we upload as ourselves (with special credit given to the PP person of course).

Would have to be limited to X Time per picture.. to be decided later.

So few things...

1) No theme needed, photographer would im sure gear it towards the PP Persons Style
2) Pre-Uploading, images have to be given the PP Person to work on week prior to upload Date
3) Time limit on how long the PP per photo can be
4) Could decide if we get to direct the way the images goes "id like mine b&w" or "please bring out the blues" but personally I think we leave it up to the PP Person
5) Need to find a person willing to do all that PP work for a challenge :)

Thoughts? Ideas?

Message edited by author 2011-05-17 21:07:15.
 05/17/2011 05:19:14 PM · #2
I'm not getting what the point of this would be.
 05/17/2011 05:27:53 PM · #3
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
I'm not getting what the point of this would be.


Well its to make my pictures look better of course! S

So here was my thought processes, I was looking at the phone pictures challenge again, then I read the thread where Dennisheckman said they had spent an hour working on their picture. I thought to myself, I didnt spend that long, I wouldnt even know what to do with a picture for an hour in PP. Then I thought, wonder what my picture would have got if someone who knew what they were doing did the PP for it.. then I thought, hey what a great challenge. It takes one thing out of the equation and kinda levels the field to the actual shot.

So there you have it.. the workings of my mind!

Message edited by author 2011-05-17 21:28:31.
 05/17/2011 05:33:35 PM · #4
You could run it as a side challenge rather than a voted-on DPC challenge. And that way everyone could learn from the results as you went along.
 05/17/2011 05:33:39 PM · #5
Originally posted by Socom:
Then I thought, wonder what my picture would have got if someone who knew what they were doing did the PP for it..

Well, all you need to do to see that is post a photo in the forums asking for editing help. You'll usually get about half a dozen different tries on it and if you are lucky, one with Godzilla in it. Then there is the currently running post processing side challenge. It always is interesting to see what different people do with the same scene.
 05/17/2011 05:40:29 PM · #6
Ya, I know, just thought this would be interesting..
 05/17/2011 05:45:59 PM · #7
It would *have* to be a side challenge, or non-challenge entry.

From the Challenge Rules:

Your submission must be:
taken and post-processed by you. Someone else may press the shutter button if you set up the shot and the camera settings. No one else may post-process your entry for you. Exceptions must be approved by the Site Council in advance.
 05/17/2011 05:48:23 PM · #8
Originally posted by karmat:
It would *have* to be a side challenge, or non-challenge entry.

From the Challenge Rules:

Your submission must be:
taken and post-processed by you. Someone else may press the shutter button if you set up the shot and the camera settings. No one else may post-process your entry for you. Exceptions must be approved by the Site Council in advance.


I am guessing we would go with the clause: Exceptions must be approved by the Site Council in advance. for the whole challenge :)
 05/17/2011 05:49:37 PM · #9
Originally posted by karmat:
Exceptions must be approved by the Site Council in advance.


i'm not crazy about the idea, but playing devils advocate, its not like you couldnt run a challenge with special rules. such as the hidden gem challenges

Message edited by author 2011-05-17 21:50:11.
 05/18/2011 02:46:09 PM · #10
I like it.
 05/18/2011 02:57:16 PM · #11
I don't see the point. Just looks like a lot of work for the PP person, and honestly I don't think someone should be rewarded for an image they didn't even edit.
 05/18/2011 03:02:56 PM · #12
Originally posted by Fiora:
I don't see the point. Just looks like a lot of work for the PP person, and honestly I don't think someone should be rewarded for an image they didn't even edit.


Credit would go to the Photographer and the Post Production Person
 05/18/2011 07:43:52 PM · #13
Originally posted by Fiora:
I don't see the point. Just looks like a lot of work for the PP person, and honestly I don't think someone should be rewarded for an image they didn't even edit.


Fiora, I think you would be SHOCKED by the number of professional photographers who NEVER do their own post work. Personally that's not my style or personality because when I create an image good or bad I want to be the one who sees it through from concept/vision, the shoot and finally post etc.

That's not to say that I don't enjoy seeing what I can do with other photogs images, and I'm not opposed to others having fun and possibly giving me a different interpretation or look from one of my shots. If it's something I'm going to put my name one though I want to be involved through the whole process. It's just the way I am.

Seriously though...there a many many photographers who are involved in the concept, but their "team" makes that concept come to life. The photog comes in with their vision for lighting, poses, composition etc., and if usually involved, but not necessarily all the time in selecting the preferred shots and than they have their PP team complete the look. Again, not for me, but VERY common.

This would really be no different then that. Truth be told there are people who have a great eye and make fantastic photographers, but are average or below average in their processing, and again there are a lot of fantastic people who have this incredible knack for bringing even the most average photo to life in post, but couldn't shoot a decent exposure to save their lives. People who have the time and talent to do both are usually very successful if they market themselves in productive manners.

Dave

05/18/2011 08:26:49 PM · #14
Originally posted by DCNUTTER:
Originally posted by Fiora:
I don't see the point. Just looks like a lot of work for the PP person, and honestly I don't think someone should be rewarded for an image they didn't even edit.


Fiora, I think you would be SHOCKED by the number of professional photographers who NEVER do their own post work. Personally that's not my style or personality because when I create an image good or bad I want to be the one who sees it through from concept/vision, the shoot and finally post etc.

That's not to say that I don't enjoy seeing what I can do with other photogs images, and I'm not opposed to others having fun and possibly giving me a different interpretation or look from one of my shots. If it's something I'm going to put my name one though I want to be involved through the whole process. It's just the way I am.

Seriously though...there a many many photographers who are involved in the concept, but their "team" makes that concept come to life. The photog comes in with their vision for lighting, poses, composition etc., and if usually involved, but not necessarily all the time in selecting the preferred shots and than they have their PP team complete the look. Again, not for me, but VERY common.

This would really be no different then that. Truth be told there are people who have a great eye and make fantastic photographers, but are average or below average in their processing, and again there are a lot of fantastic people who have this incredible knack for bringing even the most average photo to life in post, but couldn't shoot a decent exposure to save their lives. People who have the time and talent to do both are usually very successful if they market themselves in productive manners.

Dave


No, I actually know that. I wasn't really making my statement about the world. Just that I don't think you should be rewarded on DPC for it. The whole point about DPC is that its a place to learn. Yes, you can learn by looking at other pieces. But not as much as doing your own editing and getting rewarded for that.
 05/18/2011 08:39:15 PM · #15
Originally posted by karmat:
It would *have* to be a side challenge, or non-challenge entry.

From the Challenge Rules:

Your submission must be:
taken and post-processed by you. Someone else may press the shutter button if you set up the shot and the camera settings. No one else may post-process your entry for you. Exceptions must be approved by the Site Council in advance.


Yeah, but that's like a two inch hurdle for anyone wanting to cheat. Has anybody actually been DQed for breaking this rule (i.e. the post processing part)?

Message edited by author 2011-05-19 00:40:00.
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