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01/02/2011 02:36:19 PM · #1 |
| Anyone have one of these? I'm looking to get some neutral density grads and the P filter holder seems like a nice, inexpensive product. the only thing i cant tell from the pictures is - can you adjust the "horizon" line with your ND grads? looks like the filters just sit in there and there would be no way to adjust where the gradation sits. thoughts? |
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01/02/2011 02:38:35 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by leonedavis:
Anyone have one of these? I'm looking to get some neutral density grads and the P filter holder seems like a nice, inexpensive product. the only thing i cant tell from the pictures is - can you adjust the "horizon" line with your ND grads? looks like the filters just sit in there and there would be no way to adjust where the gradation sits. thoughts? |
The opposite is true - with the screw ons you can NOT adjust up and down, with the cokin you can adjust in every direction, easily, and you can stack them, too.
I love mine! |
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01/02/2011 02:45:32 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
Originally posted by leonedavis:
Anyone have one of these? I'm looking to get some neutral density grads and the P filter holder seems like a nice, inexpensive product. the only thing i cant tell from the pictures is - can you adjust the "horizon" line with your ND grads? looks like the filters just sit in there and there would be no way to adjust where the gradation sits. thoughts? |
The opposite is true - with the screw ons you can NOT adjust up and down, with the cokin you can adjust in every direction, easily, and you can stack them, too.
I love mine! |
Ditto. Great inexpensive filters. The only thing I noticed with my filters are that they have a colour shift on long exposures. No problems usually. I just take one shot and set the WB to that pic and I am good to go.
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01/02/2011 02:47:56 PM · #4 |
| great well ill be getting one of them then! |
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01/29/2011 07:17:21 AM · #5 |
I have a question about they holder/ring system. Do you need a separate one for each of your lenses? If I have a 67mm and a 72mm lens, do they each require their own ring?
Also, WHERE can you buy Cokin. Their site doesn't seem to have a store. Do you have to go to Amazon or eBay? |
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01/29/2011 07:20:31 AM · #6 |
The Cokin holders are fine, but I recommend the HiTech P filters instead of the Cokin ones...they dint scratch as easy, and they are pretty reasonable in price (much better value than the scratch in a second Cokin filters).
Check out 2filter.com for a good selection, good service, and good prices. (I'm just a customer.)
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01/29/2011 07:24:15 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by tanguera:
I have a question about they holder/ring system. Do you need a separate one for each of your lenses? If I have a 67mm and a 72mm lens, do they each require their own ring?
Also, WHERE can you buy Cokin. Their site doesn't seem to have a store. Do you have to go to Amazon or eBay? |
Yes, you buy an adapter ring for each lens size (and preferably each lens so you can leave them on.
Then buy one of the cokin one size fits all lens caps for each lens. They fit right over the adapter, and they are very convenient.
Now to switch lenses, you:
take the new lens out of the bag
put it on the camera in place of the current one
slide the holder off the lens you just removed, put it on the new lens on your camera
take the lens cap you just removed from the new lens, and put it on the old lens, they now use the same cap!
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01/29/2011 07:42:05 AM · #8 |
| Awesome. Are those instructions for Cokin or for HiTech? Or both? |
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01/29/2011 07:53:48 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by tanguera:
Awesome. Are those instructions for Cokin or for HiTech? Or both? |
I have all Cokin stuff, except for the Hitech GND filter, which has lasted for years (I went through 4 Cokin GNDs before that in the same period)
The cokin filter holders are plastic, but last and are generally good. The Cokin adapter rings are all metal and are fine.
I suggest if you want to save money buy one of the Cokin "kits", and then the HiTech filter and the lens caps as accessories. You may also want to have two cokin holders: the regular holder, which holds 2 or 3 filters, and the wide angle adapter, which only holds one so it doesn't vignette at wide angle. Or just get the wide angle holder if you are just going to use it for GNDs. (I also have a number of other Cokin filters: NDs are useful, and even a glass polarizer you can use with either adapter.) Note the polarizer does vignette with a 10-20mm wide angle lens at 10. |
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01/29/2011 07:58:18 AM · #10 |
| I'm actually more interested in the gradient filters, but I will definitely keep those details in mind. I imagine that since they are rectangular, you can't rotate them perpendicular to the frame since you'd lose the edges? |
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01/29/2011 08:09:35 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by tanguera:
I'm actually more interested in the gradient filters, but I will definitely keep those details in mind. I imagine that since they are rectangular, you can't rotate them perpendicular to the frame since you'd lose the edges? |
The Cokins are square; the hitech's are longer than wide, so you can adjust them up and down to adjust the gradual cutoff. In fact, there may be a long and longer version.
I don't understand why you'd rotate, but if the bright area was the left side of the photo rather than the right, then yes, you could rotate the whole holder so the gradient was dark on the left and gradually decreased in density to the right. |
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01/29/2011 08:28:51 AM · #12 |
They more than cover the angle of view in any position of rotation. You can rotate the holder to any position, so you would be able to use a grad-ND for shooting mountain or hill sides because you can rotate the filter to match the grade of the landscape. You can also stack up to three filters if you want or need to do so.
Be sure to get a little bag or sleeve to put each filter in, because as has been mentioned, they are like scratch magnets. After a while they become "soft" filters.
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01/29/2011 02:46:38 PM · #13 |
| Excellent. Thanks again, everyone. |
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01/30/2011 02:42:37 AM · #14 |
Hi Johanna!
I do have P holder of Cokin, and got a few filters from Cokin, and also from non-brand (ND ones).
They are very versatile, you can adjust them, shift up or down, rotate, you name it.
I also have a wide one for my sigma 10-20mm, but you can only use 1 filter or you have vignetting.
In the normal P holder you can stack up to 3 filters, although I've noticed some strange hue shift when combining gradual density and polarizing, but you can get cool effects :P
I also have an IR filter, it's great to use it, because you can focus the lens, and then slide the filter in, that you will be in focus (this is harder to do on the screw ones).
Cokin does not have an online store, and I found that sometimes is cheaper to get it locally than to have them shipped.
As for the several lenses, you just need (as Neil said) one adapter ring for each diameter of your lenses. It's fairly cheap, below $10 usually.
Take care,
Joao
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