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07/16/2002 10:41:56 AM · #101 |
Originally posted by Point:
Hmm, it's a good idea BUT not EVERYONE has a broadband internet connection! I have been voting all morning and I'm only at 68/175. :(
I don't mind spending lots of time around here, but a girl needs to work too sometimes!
Hi Point, and welcome to the site! I understand your frustration with dialup speed. Here's something you might try that works well for a friend of mine:
Open two browser windows to the vote page. In one window, click on the first image, in the second, choose one about halfway down the page. Go back the the first window and vote, then press ALT-TAB to switch to the second window. Vote in the second window and switch back to the first. By doing it this way you can have one window loading while you vote on the other. You should get through your voting much faster.
-Terry
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07/16/2002 10:45:53 AM · #102 |
Originally posted by gavin:
my question is :are entries allowed to be altered-(in graphics software programmes)?.
i'm guessing not, but have been having so much fun with software tools and the stuff that iv'e "edited is some of my best stuff ever.
g.
Per the site rules only certain very limited types of editing are allowed. Basically, all spot-editing is prohibited as are nearly all filters. The rules are definitely on my "recommended reading" list as it will help you avoid any unpleasant surprises later.
-Terry
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07/16/2002 11:38:22 AM · #103 |
Here's another method that works on a SLOW DIALUP, that I find a little less cumbersome, but try em both and see waht works with you :)
Open the voting page, let all the thumbnails load.
Now hold down the shift key (on Mac use the command or apple key) and click the one you want to vote on. It will open in another window.
Do this with several, and while some are loading, you can be voting on others. It's basically a variation on the same thing as clubjuggle described but you can open as many windows as your machine will handle.
Originally posted by clubjuggle:
Originally posted by Point:
[i]Hmm, it's a good idea BUT not EVERYONE has a broadband internet connection! I have been voting all morning and I'm only at 68/175. :(
I don't mind spending lots of time around here, but a girl needs to work too sometimes!
Hi Point, and welcome to the site! I understand your frustration with dialup speed. Here's something you might try that works well for a friend of mine:
Open two browser windows to the vote page. In one window, click on the first image, in the second, choose one about halfway down the page. Go back the the first window and vote, then press ALT-TAB to switch to the second window. Vote in the second window and switch back to the first. By doing it this way you can have one window loading while you vote on the other. You should get through your voting much faster.
-Terry
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07/16/2002 11:44:22 AM · #104 |
LOL! Magnetic, do you know I have been either developing or managing websites since '96. I have used and written for just about every browser to come down the pike in that time. I consider myself pretty dang knowledgable about all things web-related... and yet, I did not know that shift click trick. heh, learn something new every day, eh?
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07/16/2002 11:49:38 AM · #105 |
Originally posted by hokie:
[i]Regarding voting/commenting requirements.
In my opinion, (the only opinion I have) if you don't have time in 7 days(even on a 56k connect) to vote on a majority of the pictures here maybe the site, as it is designed for right now, is not for you.{/i]
Hokie, reading through the postings on this topic what a lot of people seem to be saying is that even if you fully participate in voting and commenting week in and week out and then go on vacation for a week or 2 returning on a Saturday or Sunday, you will still be prevented from entering the present challenge unless you fulfill the new voting criteria on the present voting page i.e. score 95% or comment on 25% when there just isn't the time to do this fairly.
Vin
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07/16/2002 11:58:21 AM · #106 |
OK, my sixpense on the topic. I am of the mind that, when it comes to free services offered through a website that, if you build it, they will come. And if you continue to offer it for free, and they dont like it, then they can leave. Just deal, folks. So what if you dont get to submit for a week? Life goes on.
D&L have their reasons for implementing changes, and they go way out of thier way to listen to the user community here when making those changes. And they get no compensation in return. So if they choose to TRY something to see how it works, just deal. If enough people dont like it, they'll probably change it again. And if they even dont, then just deal. Or leave. That simple. |
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07/16/2002 12:10:50 PM · #107 |
Originally posted by vin rigby:
Hokie, reading through the postings on this topic what a lot of people seem to be saying is that even if you fully participate in voting and commenting week in and week out and then go on vacation for a week or 2 returning on a Saturday or Sunday, you will still be prevented from entering the present challenge unless you fulfill the new voting criteria on the present voting page i.e. score 95% or comment on 25% when there just isn't the time to do this fairly.
Hey vin :-)
I can see the dilemna for sure in your holiday scenario. I don't think this particular scenario will affect a very large percentage of the submitters week in and week out.
But the bottom line is there are dozens of sites to submit photographs to, each with their unique "rules" or hoops to jump through. Personally I don't have a preference for any specific rule or hoop. I just take a photo and throw it in the ring.
I am here for the challenge part, a specific topic like an assignment, that is totally out of my control. As long as that aspect remains the same I will go along with whatever the site does that meets with the greatest number of folks needs and interests. :-) |
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07/16/2002 03:30:47 PM · #108 |
Well I suppose its just a question of see how it goes, it would be sad to see any folks leaving this wonderful site - all thanks to Drew and Langton- there's no other site quite like this and there's lots of nice people hear with the same objectives.
Vin
Originally posted by hokie:
Originally posted by vin rigby:
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Hokie, reading through the postings on this topic what a lot of people seem to be saying is that even if you fully participate in voting and commenting week in and week out and then go on vacation for a week or 2 returning on a Saturday or Sunday, you will still be prevented from entering the present challenge unless you fulfill the new voting criteria on the present voting page i.e. score 95% or comment on 25% when there just isn't the time to do this fairly.
Hey vin :-)
I can see the dilemna for sure in your holiday scenario. I don't think this particular scenario will affect a very large percentage of the submitters week in and week out.
But the bottom line is there are dozens of sites to submit photographs to, each with their unique "rules" or hoops to jump through. Personally I don't have a preference for any specific rule or hoop. I just take a photo and throw it in the ring.
I am here for the challenge part, a specific topic like an assignment, that is totally out of my control. As long as that aspect remains the same I will go along with whatever the site does that meets with the greatest number of folks needs and interests. :-)[/i]
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07/16/2002 03:47:09 PM · #109 |
Originally posted by vin rigby:
Well I suppose its just a question of see how it goes, it would be sad to see any folks leaving this wonderful site - all thanks to Drew and Langton- there's no other site quite like this and there's lots of nice people hear with the same objectives.
I agree, it would be a bad thing to inhibit the nice growth and unique style of the site. Glad it's not up to me to make these decisions..I have a hard enough time just trying to make a photo each week. :-) |
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07/16/2002 04:13:30 PM · #110 |
If the number of submissions continue to increase, which would be a good thing, the voting requirement could really get out of hand. It seems to me that there should be some other way to accomplish the objective (What was the objective??).
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07/16/2002 05:36:09 PM · #111 |
Originally posted by pnicholls:
If the number of submissions continue to increase, which would be a good thing, the voting requirement could really get out of hand. It seems to me that there should be some other way to accomplish the objective (What was the objective??).
Well, I have been here since early March, entered 15 challenges, voted on 1,800 photos (100%(6 avg.)) and had a swell time learning to use my camera. Thanks folks, but I just can't afford the time required to vote or comment as is now required. (What was the objective??).
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07/16/2002 06:06:02 PM · #112 |
Now I know everyone has busy lives, perhaps slower connections, and other time restraints. But I think that the requirements are pretty easy to abide by.
Lets say you want to go for the 95% voting one - Well, each contest seems to reach at least 100 (maybe more, Free Study was pretty darn high but i think thats cause of the topic). There are 7 days in a week. That means you have to vote on at least 15 pictures a day. Only 15! That''s not that much, even if you have a slow connection really.
But if you can''t find time to do that, then do the 25% commenting (thus voting too) one. Again, say 100 photos in the challenge = 25 photos that week you must comment on. 25 / 7 = 3 or 4 a day. That''s even less.
Say you know you have a busy week, when you sit down to vote/comment, pic the photos you for sure want to deal with. See how much you have done, do a little math and voila!
<shrug> I know people out there have less time on their hands than I do, but I''m just trying to help.
I am all for it. Personally, I vote on every single one of them and try to comment on a good chunk of the photos.
Hope everyone is having a good week.. for now, I must go and do some watercolor paintings. :)
- Jen
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/16/2002 10:07:04 PM.
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07/16/2002 06:34:29 PM · #113 |
Jenguin, I would love to see some of yer watercolors if you have any scanned sometime :)
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07/16/2002 06:51:02 PM · #114 |
I tried the opening several windows (I did three) and it really does make a difference in the speed of voting. I voted on over 20 in the same amount of time that it usually takes me to vote on 5 or 6.
I have a dial-up connection that is supposedly 56K, but only connects at 33.6. I''m sure there are some slower, but I suspect this may be among the slower ones.
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/16/2002 10:52:26 PM. |
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07/16/2002 07:39:04 PM · #115 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Jenguin, I would love to see some of yer watercolors if you have any scanned sometime :)
Sure thing, once I get a few more and i'm satisfied with 'em - i'll be putting them either on pbase or my own website. I'll tell ya when they're up :)
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07/16/2002 07:49:04 PM · #116 |
Originally posted by Jenguin:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
[i]Jenguin, I would love to see some of yer watercolors if you have any scanned sometime :)
Sure thing, once I get a few more and i'm satisfied with 'em - i'll be putting them either on pbase or my own website. I'll tell ya when they're up :)
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excellent :) I can't paint but I have made a few watercolors from photographs that look ok.. :) I'll have to round some of those up sometime.. :)
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07/16/2002 07:53:20 PM · #117 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
excellent :) I can't paint but I have made a few watercolors from photographs that look ok.. :) I'll have to round some of those up sometime.. :)
Yeah I do that too, at least I try ;) I plan to attempt my two Sea Ranch photos (in my gallery under the Sand, Water, etc section). Here's hoping I can do it!
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07/16/2002 11:38:05 PM · #118 |
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07/17/2002 03:34:49 AM · #119 |
As a person who has submited 2 photo's but has never voted, I have now voted on 126 photos in the Free Study Challange.
I realise now that I was missing something in not voting.
It is a great way to learn how to take better pictures.
My only complaint is after sitting at a computer all day at work it has taken me 2Hrs and 15 minutes to vote this far with about an hour to go.
Feels a bit like hard work.
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07/17/2002 04:45:21 AM · #120 |
Originally posted by David:
As a person who has submited 2 photo's but has never voted, I have now voted on 126 photos in the Free Study Challange.
I realise now that I was missing something in not voting.
It is a great way to learn how to take better pictures.
My only complaint is after sitting at a computer all day at work it has taken me 2Hrs and 15 minutes to vote this far with about an hour to go.
Feels a bit like hard work.
Good for you. Learning is a good thing.
I stretch out my voting over the coarse of a few days, as I have read others do as well. This is better for time spent all at once, but also gives your mind a break so that all the pictures don't "run together". I think I, at least, can vote honestly after a break. I also review the thumbnails when I finish voting, and open certain photos to reevaluate before the end of the week.
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07/17/2002 09:23:46 AM · #121 |
Sort of tough on those of us with slow dialup connections to view that many pics. Maybe thumbnails could be used for posting votes.
Originally posted by drewmedia:
Effective right now, you must fulfill one of the following requirements to submit to the current challenge:
- Vote on 95% of the images in the current challenge vote.
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- Comment on 25% of the images in the current challenge vote.
This should be a positive move on the site -- people who want the feedback and criticisms of their fellow site users should give that back in return.
First-time submitters are exempt from this requirement.
Drew
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07/17/2002 09:26:04 AM · #122 |
yes, it''s tough. but thumbnails don''t necessarily do the full size photo justice or may hide flaws. in either case, you need to see the full picture to vote.
you could vote and comment on 25% if you aren''t able to vote on 95% ...
Originally posted by rexharris:
Sort of tough on those of us with slow dialup connections to view that many pics. Maybe thumbnails could be used for posting votes.
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/17/2002 1:26:09 PM.
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07/17/2002 09:32:38 AM · #123 |
Originally posted by gr8photos:
yes, it''s tough. but thumbnails don''t necessarily do the full size photo justice or may hide flaws. in either case, you need to see the full picture to vote.
you could vote and comment on 25% if you aren''t able to vote on 95% ...
Originally posted by rexharris:
[i]Sort of tough on those of us with slow dialup connections to view that many pics. Maybe thumbnails could be used for posting votes.
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I agree..I've seen some photos thumbnail size that look really great...until you open them and see the obvious flaws. There is no way you could vote on something from thumbnail size... |
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07/17/2002 09:47:13 AM · #124 |
Forgive me for not referencing the idea mentioned further up in this thread..this is getting a bit long.
The idea of ongoing credit toward meeting submission requirements might be a good idea.
If..ON AVERAGE..you vote on 90% (maybe closer to 75%) of the photos or ON AVERAGE comment on 25% of the photos you maintain your eleigibility. That means you can build up your "credits" when you have time and relax when you don't.
That may mean that newer folks have to work a bit harder at the beginning and folks like me who have a billion votes or something may never have to vote again..but it may be a middle ground we all can live with better.
Just an idea for the pile :-) |
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07/17/2002 10:17:54 AM · #125 |
Originally posted by KDJohnson:
I agree..I've seen some photos thumbnail size that look really great...until you open them and see the obvious flaws. There is no way you could vote on something from thumbnail size...
I've also seen the opposite -- a thumbnail which looks boring but opens up to reveal subtle detail. I use both always. I've had several photos for which I had to upgrade my vote after reviewing the thumbnail again; I also recommend stepping back 3-4 feet from the monitor for some pictures for both an alternate perspective and to relieve eye and back strain.
Paul |
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