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09/08/2006 05:00:55 PM · #1

I was playing around with the Dslrs at the store again today, and I really liked the feel of the Rebel XT. The 30D they had there just seemed a bit too big and bulky for me.

What I don't understand is exactly why the 20D, 30D, etc are considered in a higher class than the Rebels, even with the same MP. What makes them "higher end" or more professional than the Rebels?

dwterry

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

09/08/2006 05:10:30 PM · #2

More frames per second, sturdier body, longer battery life. (what am I forgetting?)

love

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

09/08/2006 05:10:44 PM · #3

the buttons ; )

edited to add that I LOVE MY REBEL!

Message edited by author 2006-09-08 21:11:14.

ShutterPug

Canon EOS-6D

09/08/2006 05:17:35 PM · #4

sturdier body - not the cheap plastic the rebel is made out of.

Message edited by author 2006-09-08 21:18:27.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

09/08/2006 05:20:08 PM · #5

I have both, and I like both. I like the Rebel in part because it's cheap plastic - it's light and easy to carry around, especially if you throw the 50/1.8 on there. I like the 30D because it has nifty options the Rebel doesn't, like the RAW + jpeg (I love that feature), and WAY better battery life.

I don't think you'd be disappointed in the Rebel, but you may want to wait for the one with the automatic dust bunny removal feature.

09/08/2006 05:26:36 PM · #6

The rebel XT does have the RAW + JPEG feature, but only useable in your manual shooting modes. I have the Rebel XT, or the 350D as it's called here, and it's awesome, but all other comments made about fps, and sturdier bodies are obviously what makes the others higher end cameras.

Message edited by author 2006-09-08 21:40:02.

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

09/08/2006 05:27:11 PM · #7

I have both the 350 and the 30d as well. I just upgraded to the 30d last week. Wether or not you consider them more professional, the reasons I upgraded to the 30d from my trusty rebel were

- spot metering
- iso in 1/3rd ev increments
- iso3200
- 5fps
- the big lcd panel
- the wheel on the back (in addition to the same wheel you use to adjust shutter speed on the rebel) making it easier to dial in settings quickly
- the weight/size. My hands are big so it fits. Also the weight steadies my shake a bit.

That was it. Plus now the Rebel is soley my wife's so she can't accuse me of hogging the camera anymore.

none of which is to say the rebel isn't a great camera.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

09/08/2006 05:27:52 PM · #8

Originally posted by garretht:

The rebel does have the RAW + JPEG feature, but only useable in your manual shooting modes. I have the Rebel XT, or the 350D as it's called here, and it's awesome, but all other comments made about fps, and sturdier bodies are obviously what makes the others higher end cameras.

Mine (the Rebel) is the 300D, and I don't think it does the jpeg thingie. If it does, I never did figure that out, which is good for Canon, or I'd not have bought the 30D. :-)

09/08/2006 05:32:50 PM · #9

Sorry Deb. I just had a look at your profile and saw you had the 300D. It doesn't have the RAW thingy. It was one of the improvements that Canon made when they brought out the 350D. Does obviously drastically decrease your buffer though, which is another plus about going up... Much larger buffer.

09/08/2006 05:38:07 PM · #10

Another thing to consider is that the rebel does not have a full sensor. I'm not entirely sure about the 30D, and also not entirely sure what implications this has...so maybe someone can help me out here??? :).

dwterry

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

09/08/2006 05:39:05 PM · #11

Originally posted by garretht:

The 300D does have raw (I have that body too - just part of my growing collection, 1 300D, 2 20D's and 1 5D). And yes, it *does* have raw. The 300D uses a .CRW extension on the file. The 20D and 5D both use .CR2 for the extension.

ETA: Maybe you meant that the 300D doesn't do raw+jpeg. That is true.

Message edited by author 2006-09-08 21:39:50.

09/08/2006 05:41:11 PM · #12

Originally posted by dwterry:

Originally posted by garretht:
Sorry Deb. I just had a look at your profile and saw you had the 300D. It doesn't have the RAW thingy. It was one of the improvements that Canon made when they brought out the 350D. Does obviously drastically decrease your buffer though, which is another plus about going up... Much larger buffer.

The 300D does have raw (I have that body too - just part of my growing collection, 1 300D, 2 20D's and 1 5D). And yes, it *does* have raw. The 300D uses a .CRW extension on the file. The 20D and 5D both use .CR2 for the extension.

ETA: Maybe you meant that the 300D doesn't do raw+jpeg. That is true.

Yeah... was talking about the RAW + JPEG thingy. Sorry, should've been more specific. :).

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

09/08/2006 05:42:55 PM · #13

Originally posted by garretht:

30D is the same sensor as the rebel xt. Photos come out looking a bit different though, so either the filter in front of the sensor is different or something else inside is different.

09/08/2006 05:47:52 PM · #14

The 400D or Rebel XTi as I think they're calling it in the U.S. looks to be awesome, with a built in cleaning system which shakes dust off the sensor everytime you power on. I had a spot on my sensor, and was petrified to get it out in case I damaged the sensor. May have been a little over-cautious, but these things cost a lot of money... :).

09/08/2006 06:29:41 PM · #15

The Rebel XTi is set to debut this month right? Will that just be in the states or will it be available in Canada too? And the $900 american price tag will be about what Canadian?

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

09/08/2006 07:01:12 PM · #16

Originally posted by moniepenny:

The Rebel XTi is set to debut this month right? Will that just be in the states or will it be available in Canada too? And the $900 american price tag will be about what Canadian?

About $100,000 Canadian, right? :-) (Just kidding - I have some Canadian friends I tease about the exchange rate...)

09/08/2006 07:06:03 PM · #17

Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by moniepenny:
The Rebel XTi is set to debut this month right? Will that just be in the states or will it be available in Canada too? And the $900 american price tag will be about what Canadian?

About $100,000 Canadian, right? :-) (Just kidding - I have some Canadian friends I tease about the exchange rate...)

I think you forgot to include the GST and HST in your estimate. :)